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| Alex Jones Detained By TSA I don't know who Alex Jones is, and don't really care, but this part of the article caught my eye.
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CNN reporter Drew Griffin was put on a TSA watch list immediately after he filed reports critical of the organization back in 2008. Conservative radio host and Breitbart Editor Dana Loesch is also habitually groped by TSA screeners whenever she travels.
Following the national opt out day protest in 2010, the TSA was forced to admit that it had kept records on Alex Jones and Matt Drudge, another prominent TSA critic, but refused to release details even after a FOIA request by former Congressman Bob Barr.
Political figures who have been critical of the TSA such as Rand Paul and Ron Paul have also been singled out for harassment and interrogation by the federal agency.
»www.infowars.com/alex-jones-detained-by-tsa/
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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – U.S. Sen. Rand Paul's son reportedly was charged with underage drinking and disorderly conduct on a flight from Kentucky to North.
The Charlotte Observer reports 19-year-old William Hilton Paul was arrested Saturday morning at Charlotte Douglas International Airport.
The newspaper quoted Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Lt. Blake Hollar as saying it's possible Paul was served alcohol on the flight from Lexington, Kentucky, to Charlotte......» www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01···testnews--
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Ok, this is about Alex Jones, and is an article on Infowars, a conspiracy-theorist site. Alex Jones writings, including this article need to be taken with a whole shaker full of salt. I'm no fan of the TSA's policies......but.....yeah.
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kudos:1 | But if the TSA is keeping lists of people just because they are of an opposing political party ... that ain't good. Last I head being a "R" or a "D" was not enough to put you on a watch list. |
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I knew someone would trash the source. Fair enough.
Former lawmaker's group sues TSA for alleged Freedom of Information Act violation
The part I quoted (and my reason for posting) was perfectly accurate.
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Barr's Liberty Guard group alleges that the TSA refused to comply with FOIA requests from the organization in November 2010, when the group was encouraging airline passengers to opt out of body scanners used by TSA .
Or is The Hill "a conspiracy-theorist site" as well?
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said by Sentinel:But if the TSA is keeping lists of people just because they are of an opposing political party ... that ain't good. Last I head being a "R" or a "D" was not enough to put you on a watch list.
Its not about political affiliation, its about people who are publicly critical of the agency.
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| said by AVD:...its about people who are publicly critical of the agency. Exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm on their watch list. I'm sure they have "friends" in other agencies (e.g. Bob) that can provide details on critics.
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So what's new here?
Those in power (and those who want to be in power) have kept enemy lists since the first Neanderthal proclaimed himself to be the leader of his clan because he got in the last punch and was the "last man standing" after the last "my stick is the biggest" fight.
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said by StuartMW:I knew someone would trash the source. Fair enough.
Naturally. Not only did you link to Alex Jones's site, the story is about Alex Jones, a quackpot bigger than Limbaugh, Beck, and Bill-O combined.
Now, as to the failure to comply with a FOIA request, The Hill says:
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The lawsuit alleges TSA acknowledged receipt of the records request, but refused to release documents to Liberty Guard because it believed the information was "exempt from disclosure."
Makes it sound like the TSA didn't think those particular records had to be included. Sounds like a perfect question for lawyers to hash out in court, which is of course the whole point. I'm no lawyer, and I haven't even read the FOIA. I donno who's right or wrong here. Isn't it possible the TSA was right, and the docs were exempt? Guess we'll find out in a few months/years/decades.
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Aren't the TSA glorified security guards?
Can we disband these idiots yet, burn it down, and try again with maybe 60% less stupid? |
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said by StuartMW: quote:
Conservative radio host and Breitbart Editor Dana Loesch is also habitually groped by TSA screeners whenever she travels.
Ironically Dana Loesch had a major fallout with Breitbart and is now suing them.
»www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim···a6d.html |
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said by StuartMW:I don't know who Alex Jones is, Alex Jones is the guy who owns the web site that has the article about Alex Jones that you linked to.
Why's it matter? Because Alex Jones's web site might not be unbiased on the matter of Alex Jones.
Hope this helps. |
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| said by dave:Alex Jones is the guy who owns the web site that has the article about Alex Jones that you linked to.
Why's it matter? Because Alex Jones's web site might not be unbiased on the matter of Alex Jones.
Perhaps not but Alex Jones wasn't even the point of my post. The point is clearly made in the quoted section.
Here it again.
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Following the national opt out day protest in 2010, the TSA was forced to admit that it had kept records on Alex Jones and Matt Drudge, another prominent TSA critic, but refused to release details even after a FOIA request by former Congressman Bob Barr.
It shouldn't matter who the TSA kept records on. The fact that they do should matter.
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| said by StuartMW:Here it again.
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Following the national opt out day protest in 2010, the TSA was forced to admit that it had kept records on Alex Jones and Matt Drudge, another prominent TSA critic, but refused to release details even after a FOIA request by former Congressman Bob Barr.
It shouldn't matter who the TSA kept records on. The fact that they do should matter. You should expect no less from the communist states of america. 
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said by StuartMW: It shouldn't matter who the TSA kept records on. The fact that they do should matter. "The fact"? You're still not getting it.
"A site run by Alex Jones claims that the TSA keeps records on people" is not the same as "The TSA keeps records on people". |
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Can we disband these idiots yet, burn it down, and try again with maybe 60% less stupid?
That would count out anyone that would call for burning down what exactly?
People, airports, scanners?
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They're security guards. Their job is to inspect people for weapons. They have no detaining rights nor are they permitted to keep people in glass cages. That's kidnapping.
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It shouldn't matter who the TSA kept records on. The fact that they do should matter.
Not really. Police keep records, medical offices keep records, schools keep records. Record keeping actually moves things along. I bet even you keep records at home or work.
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What does that have to do with my question about burning something down?
As for your new comment is this an across the board policy or another isolated incident? Isolated by the way it read. That is called poor training and happens at places of employment.
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