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Re: Alex Jones Detained By TSA said by ropeguru:said by Mike:Aren't the TSA glorified security guards?
Can we disband these idiots yet, burn it down, and try again with maybe 60% less stupid?
Nope... They have gone WAAAAAYYYY beyond glorified security guards you see in airports. To add to that ... The TSA's mission creep is making the US a police state. »www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree···ce-state
Ever since 2010, when the Transportation Security Administration started requiring that travelers in American airports submit to sexually intrusive gropings based on the apparent anti-terrorism principle that "If we can't feel your nipples, they must be a bomb", the agency's craven apologists have shouted down all constitutional or human rights objections with the mantra "If you don't like it, don't fly!"
This callous disregard for travelers' rights merely paraphrases the words of Homeland Security director Janet Napolitano, who shares, with the president, ultimate responsibility for all TSA travesties since 2009. In November 2010, with the groping policy only a few weeks old, Napolitano dismissed complaints by saying "people [who] want to travel by some other means" have that right. (In other words: if you don't like it, don't fly.)
But now TSA is invading travel by other means, too. No surprise, really: as soon as she established groping in airports, Napolitano expressed her desire to expand TSA jurisdiction over all forms of mass transit. In the past year, TSA's snakelike VIPR (Visual Intermodal Prevention and Response) teams have been slithering into more and more bus and train stations – and even running checkpoints on highways – never in response to actual threats, but apparently more in an attempt to live up to the inspirational motto displayed at the TSA's air marshal training center since the agency's inception: "Dominate. Intimidate. Control."
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They are not all of them.
They are individuals here and there causing problems.
Problems that apparently are addressed as well or have you not seen that?
Try not to assume to much.
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| A couple of months ago, I had the misfortune to have to fly due to a family emergency. As usual, I expect a certain amount of arrogance and disrespect from the TSA twits. I was not disappointed. I was directed to the full body scanner by a TSA twit that had absolutely no idea how to address a person with a certain amount of respect. It was "Get in this line, now."
After going thru the full body scanner, I found that it is pretty much worthless. As I stepped out, I was asked if I had an artificial knee on my left leg. I replied no, and got groped due to a defective scanner.
The TSA so makes me feel secure about flying, NOT. |
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| I fly often as well and see the TSA in action.
Have yet to have had an issue myself with security but I know it happens.
I find it interesting in a bad way that people keep blaming the TSA instead of who is really at fault but that is for a different part of this site.
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| Yes, I blame the TSA because their machine is not doing what it is supposed to do and the personnel are arrogant little, uneducated, twits. |
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kudos:6 | I blame who ultimately runs the TSA because without their oversight or perhaps with their blessing the TSA would not be running roughshod.
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| said by Grail Knight:I blame who ultimately runs the TSA because without their oversight or perhaps with their blessing the TSA would not be running roughshod.
OTOH, perhaps the TSA is just taking orders from above to deliberately be theatrical and outrageous in order to distract attention from far worse things that are being done in the name of homeland security.
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said by StuartMW:said by dave:Alex Jones is the guy who owns the web site that has the article about Alex Jones that you linked to.
Why's it matter? Because Alex Jones's web site might not be unbiased on the matter of Alex Jones.
Perhaps not but Alex Jones wasn't even the point of my post. The point is clearly made in the quoted section. Here it again. quote:
Following the national opt out day protest in 2010, the TSA was forced to admit that it had kept records on Alex Jones and Matt Drudge, another prominent TSA critic, but refused to release details even after a FOIA request by former Congressman Bob Barr.
It shouldn't matter who the TSA kept records on. The fact that they do should matter. I would be upset if they didn't have multiple threat lists with differring levels. After all it's common sense that those deemed threats receive more screening than those who aren't.
The more important question is not are there records but what criteria are used to deem individuals threats.
In the case of Alex Jones, Austin is his hometown airport so I'm sure he's talked about and the screeners decided to mess with him. |
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I listen to CoastToCoastAM most nights. Most of what is on it is pathetically stupid and politically biased in the opposite direction that I, myself, am facing. Alex Jones comes on regularly and spews out hateful, nutcase, conspiracy theory bullcrap. As he talkes, he pants like a dog spitting out crazy accusations about stuff he knows nothing about, claiming all of it as though it were fact.
Frankly, I'm glad they are paying special attention to him, I could imagine him doing something bad, something harmful to others. I get mad at my government too, and often don't trust the workers in that government, but I don't go around spreading falsehoods and trying to incite violence, the worst I ever do is say I'm angry about something. He is dangerous because he's like an unlocked pistol in a room of young children. Sooner or later, because of him, something bad is going to happen.
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Here's your handy guide to Alex Jones.
»www.splcenter.org/get-informed/i···ex-jones |
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said by Shadow01:You should expect no less from the communist states of america. 
The day the patriot act was signed, we changed from a free nation to a socialist one.
I think you definitions need some work. Communism =/= Socialism.
Methinks we're getting closer to fascism or corporatism, actually.
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| said by caffeinator:Methinks we're getting closer to fascism...
You're probably correct there. That said all the "isms" are pretty much the same in terms of their effects.
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Alex Jones is as much at fault with this predicament as anyone, being the rabble rouser he is. »rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alex_Jones But, heck, getting a foot fungus again is yucky. »www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-···tsa.html Too bad he's not 75 and old enough to leave his shoes on.  |
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said by StuartMW:said by caffeinator:Methinks we're getting closer to fascism...
You're probably correct there. That said all the "isms" are pretty much the same in terms of their effects. It is kind of a parallel with 1929 Germany. |
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said by Mike:Aren't the TSA glorified security guards? Not entirely.... Just the airport screeners. |
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| said by burner50:Just the airport screeners.
As someone pointed out above the TSA does more than just screen at airports.
I live 35 miles from the nearest airport but uniformed DHS/TSA agents have been seen in town. I know of nothing that would require TSA like security around here. What were they up to? Someone I know asked them and they gave a non-committal answer.
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| said by StuartMW:said by burner50:Just the airport screeners.
...I live 35 miles from the nearest airport but uniformed DHS/TSA agents have been seen in town. I know of nothing that would require TSA like security around here. What were they up to?... Hunting for that airport (they were, after all, TSA employees, with all the 'skills' that implies)... or maybe looking for the driver of a certain windowless gray van?
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