 pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | [POLL] Would you opt out of powerboost if you could? I'm curious how many out there would actually opt out of powerboost if they could? I for one would, as it makes doing QoS/shaping/prioritization a PITA. And now that Comcast appears to be rolling out capped powerboost, what's an extra 7Mbps for 20 seconds really worth? When it would boost 3x your subscribed rate, it was more useful IMHO for those who liked having it.
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 JohnInSJPremium
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San Jose, CA | When it works, it's fine. You're only outbound shaping anyway, so you can just shape to your non-PB speed and be done with it.
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MadtownPremium
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Madera, CA | reply to pflog
That 20 secs of PB is what helps me have enough speed for Netflix or YouTube. No I wouldn't opt out. |
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Especially if you ever share pictures or something from your computer. |
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said by JohnInSJ:When it works, it's fine. You're only outbound shaping anyway, so you can just shape to your non-PB speed and be done with it.
Second that. Yes, power boost is not as significant a benefit at today's speeds, but Comcast is never going to offer any opt-out rates for forgoing pb.
I suspect that as pb becomes less relevant, and therefore not even a minor talking point for Comcast, it will eventually disappear.
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | reply to JigglyWiggly
said by JigglyWiggly:No, it's really nice.
Especially if you ever share pictures or something from your computer.
Yes, I see the use more for uploads than downloads. But it still wreaks havok with QoS (unless you just self-cap yourself at the sustained speeds).
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I would do it if there was a price incentive.
Also, what's this about rolling out capped PB? I haven't heard anything about that.
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | said by fonzbear2000:Also, what's this about rolling out capped PB? I haven't heard anything about that.
The new business class profiles (27/7 and 17/3) no longer have uncapped PB (that would use as much as is available on the channel(s)). I don't believe residential profiles are seeing it.
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I've always felt that Powerboost is a sham designed to artificially inflate speedtest scores. |
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | reply to n_w95482
said by n_w95482:Is this something new since your previous threads? I still have uncapped PB on 27/7.
No, but if I recall correctly you have your own modem on your biz account (dynamic), right? I don't believe customer-owned modems are receiving new boot files with the capped PB, just the SMC (and new Netgear, though I may be one of the only people with one).
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX | reply to pflog
I cannot see how power boost messes up with your qos.
Your qos should be preventing you from using power boost.
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | said by r81984:I cannot see how power boost messes up with your qos.
Your qos should be preventing you from using power boost.
That's what I mean - when you shape, you have to shape to the sustained speeds, thus eliminating PB anyway. I believe with FreeBSD's ipfw+dummynet you could, in theory, have it shape to rate A for x seconds, then rate B thereafter somehow.
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| From your post/poll it sounds like you dont want power boost.
So with qos you are getting what you want.
I would think an enterprise grade router could do dynamic qos, but yeah a small home router with a slow processor is not going to be able to do that.
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | said by r81984:From your post/poll it sounds like you dont want power boost.
So with qos you are getting what you want.
I would think an enterprise grade router could so dynamic qos, but yeah a small home router is not going to be able to do that.
Yes, but it's never going to shape as well as something implemented on the network/data link side.
I wonder, with Docis 3, if PB weren't on their network if they could offer higher speeds. Would you rather 27/7 with powerboost or say 30/10 without PB?
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | reply to r81984
Also, some TCP stacks really don't handle powerboost well without alternative TCP congestion control algorithms or other tweaks. (reference: »Powerboost and FreeBSD)
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Also as some feedback, I wish comcast would be more open and honest about the powerboost feature and its limitations.
Me for example, I'm on the standard performance. I believe this is advertised as 25/5 (or soon to be 25/5)
If i run a speedtest, they generally comeback as 24/4 (Also what shaperprobe says)
However using a utility such as shaperprobe I can see that the provisioned speed is 16/2.
Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 4258 Kbps.
Downstream: 25485 Kbps.
The measurement will take upto 2.5 minutes. Please wait.
Checking for traffic shapers:
Upstream: Burst size: 4918-4996 KB;
Shaping rate: 2128 Kbps.
Downstream: Burst size: 9463-9986 KB;
Shaping rate: 15978 Kbps.
However nowhere on Comcast site can you find this information out. Being honest about the speed of the connection is my gripe. Is my teir 25/5? is it 16/2 but I get 25/4 with powerboost? Is it going to be 25/5 and my non powerbost will be 18/3.5? Etc |
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
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said by pflog:said by r81984:From your post/poll it sounds like you dont want power boost.
So with qos you are getting what you want.
I would think an enterprise grade router could so dynamic qos, but yeah a small home router is not going to be able to do that.
Yes, but it's never going to shape as well as something implemented on the network/data link side. I wonder, with Docis 3, if PB weren't on their network if they could offer higher speeds. Would you rather 27/7 with powerboost or say 30/10 without PB? Power boost makes sense.
They built their network to handle specific end user peak speeds so your plan is for X amount of speed.
Now because not everyone is always using peak speeds, they can power boost you with extra capacity on their network.
Comcast is just using common sense and extra capacity to benefit their customers. Now if everyone was at peak speed then you would not get power boost.
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | Yes, I realize it makes sense for some people, but not everyone, hence the poll.
Also, if they are planning to update PB for residential customers as well to be capped, they must have a reason for doing that. Perhaps being uncapped was taxing the system too much, who knows.
I don't see the point of 27 with boosts to 34 nearly as much as 27 with boosts > 60-70 Mbps (which is what I used to see).
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pflogBueller? Bueller?Premium,MVM
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kudos:3 | reply to Tr0utp0nD
Interesting, so some residential areas and plans are in fact seeing capped PB.
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