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Thane_Bitter
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join:2005-01-20
reply to nunya

Re: Siemens panel interlock kit

I think it’s a new thing, I loath the look of it as well. Given the spacing requirement rules it also means more of the floor is useless in front of it (not like that stops homeowners from piling crap in front of it anyways. )


telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06

said by Thane_Bitter:

I think it’s a new thing, I loath the look of it as well. Given the spacing requirement rules it also means more of the floor is useless in front of it (not like that stops homeowners from piling crap in front of it anyways. )

Captain Unibrow on Holmes on Homes made mounting them sideways cool! personally i like em right side up!


LazMan
Premium
join:2003-03-26
canada
reply to alkizmo

said by alkizmo:

Im just saying: Not "Canadian" thing, and I find personally it less convenient than right side up with going from the sides.

Whatever I'm allowed to do in Quebec is another topic all together.

edit - For debate purposes on preference: Even if you have plenty of KO on one side, you'd have most/all your circuits entering from only one side instead of splitting 50/50 on each side, that doesn't leave a lot of volume space on the top side.

Won't argue about your thoughts on convenience - the configuration is fairly common, and I find easy enough to work on - most modern panels have more then enough trough space to route conductors to where they need to go. I've worked on many, in vertical and horizontal configs, and never had a problem...

Not trying to start a thing with you here; all I meant was that your knowledge base is still developing, and that generally, PQ has a different set of rules then the rest of Canada... Plus the cheap hydro and common use of electric heat skews that experience a bit, too - what's common in Ontario or the west (the bulk of my experience) isn't necessarily represented in Quebec (where, for clarity's sake - I've done a handful of jobs, at most...)

Anyways - back to my original topic - looks like an interlock isn't going to be an option for me, so I'm going to have to install a sub-panel...


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1

said by LazMan:

Not trying to start a thing with you here; all I meant was that your knowledge base is still developing, and that generally, PQ has a different set of rules then the rest of Canada...

True that rules are different here, probably why I havent seen a sideways panel (telco_mtl would be in position to answer that since he's a house inspector for purchases).

Preference is preference (You like coke, I like pepsi).
Though my experience is limited, I've pulled a lot of cables in my two panels (along with a lot of reorganization) and I favor entering through the KO closest to the desired breaker, which is typically from the sides).

said by LazMan:

Anyways - back to my original topic - looks like an interlock isn't going to be an option for me, so I'm going to have to install a sub-panel...

Too bad the transfer switch I bought isn't for sale anymore at home depot. It was fairly cheap (150$) and had 24 spaces, which would be plenty if you stick to essentials and a few luxuries.

This panel should do a good job
»www.homedepot.ca/product/60-amp-···m/992421

It's the biggest one there is (in terms of breaker space).

Look on the bright side, for every circuit you move to that transfer switch, you gain more room in your main panel

edit - You could go for a siemens to not have to buy new breakers, but they only have 6/12 circuits. Yuck.

garys_2k
Premium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI
reply to LazMan

Or, just get an whole new panel that can accept an interlock.



LazMan
Premium
join:2003-03-26
canada

If I'm going to do a panel swap, I'd go straight to an ATS capable or equipped one... If I'm going to do that much work, I may as well set myself up for an auto-start gennie, you know?

I'm trying do this on the cheap; to be honest, and it's more then I'd like to spend.



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1

said by LazMan:

to be honest, and it's more then I'd like to spend.

The interlock kit would have been 150$ right up front.

But ya, with a transfer switch (200$) you gotta buy the breakers (there goes another 150$).

It's sad, for 200$ you can buy a small load center with 10-15 breakers in the box + main breakers. However, with a transfer switch, you get a smaller load center and no breakers! Just because it comes with 2 sets of main breakers and an interlock bracket!

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06
reply to alkizmo

ive seen a few sideways panels in retrofit situations, often its because they are replacing a small fuse panel with a larger 200amp panel and its easier to place it sideways for space considerations and keeping it off the floor.

as for your generator panel ive noticed home depot has pulled all their stablok panels. I picked up a QO generator panel with switched neutral for just over 200. not a crazy price



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1

said by telco_mtl:

as for your generator panel ive noticed home depot has pulled all their stablok panels. I picked up a QO generator panel with switched neutral for just over 200. not a crazy price

That's what I was saying about it being cheaper (150$).
200$ is pretty good too, but the difference in price is 5 breakers :O

So who installed it for you?

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06

said by alkizmo:

said by telco_mtl:

as for your generator panel ive noticed home depot has pulled all their stablok panels. I picked up a QO generator panel with switched neutral for just over 200. not a crazy price

That's what I was saying about it being cheaper (150$).
200$ is pretty good too, but the difference in price is 5 breakers :O

So who installed it for you?

its funny, it must have installed itself, since in my house all the things i wanted to power on the generator were actually close together at the front of the house so i put it in the furnace room, powering the furnace, the living room is above the furnace room so a lamp and TV are on it, and the fridge is about 15 feet from where i put the panel as well.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1

said by telco_mtl:

its funny, it must have installed itself

Aren't you worried? That panel wasn't a licensed electrician!

telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06

said by alkizmo:

said by telco_mtl:

its funny, it must have installed itself

Aren't you worried? That panel wasn't a licensed electrician!

i think the panel was qualified especially because after over a couple of beers an electrician friend had a look


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1

said by telco_mtl:

i think the panel was qualified especially because after over a couple of beers an electrician friend had a look

Beer goggles inspection. Everything looks better.


Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
kudos:1
reply to nunya

said by nunya:

I've never understood why Canadians install their panels sideways.

I thought you were joking until I looked it up on google...