 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | Comcast I'm sure Comcast will not allow it to work with my Roku device, but only an Xbox 360 or my PC/Tablets. Comcast has some kind of deal with Microsoft that keeps HBO Go off of other devices for no good reason I can find except perhaps to salvage the ridiculous, antiquated HD Technology fee.
I should be able to watch HBO Go on my Roku device, but Comcast will not allow it. I have serious doubts that Comcast will play along with this new Netflix offering. |
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 LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 | said by jmn1207: I have serious doubts that Comcast will play along with this new Netflix offering. There is another part to this. And that is Netflix is placing caching servers within an ISPs network. The HD & 3D features won't work until that happens. It is in Comcast's interest to work with Netflix and get Netflix caching servers on its network, because that lessens the load on Comcast's backbone and peering connections. Once the caching servers are on Comcast's network, the HD & 3D feature set is automatic for supported devices. -- A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | said by Linklist:There is another part to this. And that is Netflix is placing caching servers within an ISPs network. The HD & 3D features won't work until that happens. It is in Comcast's interest to work with Netflix and get Netflix caching servers on its network, because that lessens the load on Comcast's backbone and peering connections. Once the caching servers are on Comcast's network, the HD & 3D feature set is automatic for supported devices. The bitching from the ISPs that are bitching has never been about capacity at the backbone level or transit / peering. It's about their lack of capacity at the last mile and how they're not upgrading their network at an appropriate pace. Although the caching appliances and/or peering does reduce the cost for delivering those bits to the user it doesn't resolve the biggest issue they have with users using Netflix. |
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| reply to jmn1207 It's not up for Comcast to allow or disallow your Roku device from working with the super HD. That's an issue between Roku and Netflix. Same regarding the Xbox 360 which at the time of this posting isn't one of the supported devices. Regarding the HBO Go, that's an issue between HBO and Comcast and not Netflix. |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | said by Mike Wolf:It's not up for Comcast to allow or disallow your Roku device from working with the super HD. That's an issue between Roku and Netflix. Same regarding the Xbox 360 which at the time of this posting isn't one of the supported devices. Regarding the HBO Go, that's an issue between HBO and Comcast and not Netflix. I never suggested that HBO Go not working on my Roku device had anything to do with Netflix. Comcast certainly prevents me from watching HBO Go on my Roku. If there was any method to prevent me from watching Netflix on my Roku, in any form, you can bet Comcast would make it happen. If it works, it is only because Comcast lacks the technical ability to keep it from working. |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | said by Mike Wolf:I know but since this is a Netflix thread...I don't know how HBO Go is involved. Netflix is a subscription TV service that works on my Roku devices, just as HBO Go is a TV subscription service that works on my Roku devices...on Verizon FiOS, but not on my Comcast service. Since Comcast refuses to provide a good reason for doing so, I suspect that Comcast does not want Roku to be able to show HBO content in HD, as Comcast charges a ridiculous HD technology free for those using an HD cable box or DVR. Using Roku for HBO Go would allow a Comcast customer to pay for only SD content, while using the Roku device to stream HBO HD content to their TV.
If there is any method for Comcast to prevent Netflix HD content from streaming to my TV using a Roku device, I'm certain they would implement it. |
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| Pretty sure if you subscribe to HBO you don't have a choice whether or not to receive HBO in HD, especially because Comcast doesn't offer standard definition DVR's and set top boxes anymore. Comcast also wouldn't block Netflix HD content or even their Super HD content because of the very fact that the ISP's aren't allowed to dictate what their customers are or are not allowed to access. I think that would fall under Net Neutrality. This reminds me of the Comcast-Level 3 battle over charging extra. -- I'm always up for a good chat and helping with VoIP testing so my contact info is below. Gigaset.net: Michael Wolf Callcentric: 17772288600 SIP URI: sip:226976325024#9@sip.gigaset.net and sip:17772288600@in.callcentric.com Skype: MikeWolf051 |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | I am certain there are still plenty of SD boxes that are still around. The only other thing keeping HBO Go access from other devices like the Roku, Playstation 3, or a Samsung Smart TV would be some shady backroom deal with Microsoft, so that it remains exclusively available only to the Xbox 360.
All Comcast has to do to keep Netflix Super HD services away is to simply refuse to join the Netflix Open Connect network. I'm betting Comcast will hold out for quite some time, if they ever do join at all. |
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| I'm not sure about that, it would be bad press for Comcast to refuse to join, especially if Verizon FiOS does join which is one of their primary competitions in the Northeast, as well as bad press if every other cable provider joins, causing Comcast to be the only provider who did NOT join. Would make them look petty and cause risk of losing current and perspective customers in areas where other providers are available. Plus I'm sure there is some sort of FCC agreement put in place from their NBC Universal merger. I dunno.
If there's one thing Comcast hates more then losing money, is losing paying customers, especially if it doesn't cost them anything to join. The hardware and software is free from Netflix from what I understand so it should be a win-win. From what I understand the use of this hardware and software should ease up on network resource usage from high volumes of Netflix traffic. -- I'm always up for a good chat and helping with VoIP testing so my contact info is below. Gigaset.net: Michael Wolf Callcentric: 17772288600 SIP URI: sip:226976325024#9@sip.gigaset.net and sip:17772288600@in.callcentric.com Skype: MikeWolf051 |
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 | reply to jmn1207 Sorry but that's bunk.
I have Comcast for my TV service, and have HBO Go setup on my Kindle Fire and on my Xbox 360. Comcast supports it on all devices that support HBO Go. |
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 jmn1207Premium join:2000-07-19 Ashburn, VA kudos:1 | said by Crash Over:Sorry but that's bunk.
I have Comcast for my TV service, and have HBO Go setup on my Kindle Fire and on my Xbox 360. Comcast supports it on all devices that support HBO Go. It works on all computers, including notebooks and any tablet PC, like the Kindle Fire.
It does not work on a Playstation 3, Roku device, or the new Samsung Smart TV's.
No lie, and it is stupid as hell.
»forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-···/1100271
Like I said before, HBO Go worked great on my Roku with my FiOS service, and now Comcast will not allow it, except on an Xbox 360 or a computer of some type. |
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