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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to DarkStar33

Re: Netflix Super HD/Open Connect

said by DarkStar33:

Windows 8 is a polite way of saying "Windows" without have to deal with listing the previous versions.

If your on XP/Vista its a worthwhile upgrade.

Sounds ridiculous to me. Every other product and web site lists each respective Windows version as appropriate.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to Tx

said by Tx:

Isn't apple tv just the same as any other device like Boxee?

Unfortunately not, even though there are devices capable of playing 1080p / 5.1 sound content Netflix white lists devices which are provided 1080p / 5.1 sound content and they don't add every device to the white list; it is annoying.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

AppleTV is only good if you've got other Apple devices and are into the whole iTunes ecosystem... Many are not...

Well especially with the stock firmware. In that configuration it leaves a lot to be desired compared to other media players. Personally I have no interest in having to hack the thing to make it usable.

dm1336

join:2011-08-07
Scarborough, ON

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reply to El Quintron

What's weird is that didn't Netflix already have 1080p content? I see on my PS3 that stuff has Super HD, but then other movies are just HD.

Hunger Games is HD, and that's one of their newest movies. A ton of other movies say Super HD.

Does this mean that HD movies are now 1080i? I don't think its 720p, although companies do get away with calling that HD too.

When playing something on my PS3 it shows the following (press Select):
Medium/SD
High/SD
Medium/HD
High/HD
X-High/HD

Not sure if it's just me but I did notice there was less of a 'fuzzy' look to the picture. Very close to blu-ray like quality.


bdoyledimou

join:2002-08-20
Markham, ON
reply to kabes

it works for ME using unblock -us -- the first time i clicked it didn't show, but when i went back a few minutes later -- it showed green. try again?


TheMG
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reply to 34764170

said by 34764170:

said by DarkStar33:

Windows 8 is a polite way of saying "Windows" without have to deal with listing the previous versions.

If your on XP/Vista its a worthwhile upgrade.

Sounds ridiculous to me. Every other product and web site lists each respective Windows version as appropriate.

I agree. If it works on other versions of Windows, then they should list those as well.

Otherwise, it leads to confusion as to whether or not older OS are supported, and they could lose potential subscribers (the kind who are not willing to upgrade to Win8).


TOPDAWG
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Midland, ON
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monitors do this same BS. Say compatible with windows whatever version. Hell my dad got one years ago and asked why he picked that one and he said one reason said it was compatible with windows so he knew it would work.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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reply to dm1336

said by dm1336:

What's weird is that didn't Netflix already have 1080p content? I see on my PS3 that stuff has Super HD, but then other movies are just HD.

Hunger Games is HD, and that's one of their newest movies. A ton of other movies say Super HD.

Does this mean that HD movies are now 1080i? I don't think its 720p, although companies do get away with calling that HD too.

When playing something on my PS3 it shows the following (press Select):
Medium/SD
High/SD
Medium/HD
High/HD
X-High/HD

Not sure if it's just me but I did notice there was less of a 'fuzzy' look to the picture. Very close to blu-ray like quality.

As I stated with another post above. They already had 1080p streams. These are 1080p streams with lower compression. It's a marketing name at best which will just confuse people.

You're not seeing Super HD yet for some content because it has not been re-encoded. They will be re-encoding further content as time goes on but they probably wanted to have at least a couple hundred titles at launch time.

It is not "getting away" with anything. 720p is still HD.

dm1336

join:2011-08-07
Scarborough, ON

The compression thing makes sense, thanks brad



TOPDAWG
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reply to El Quintron

so what videos are in super HD I can try? I looked at Dexter on the PC and it shows it maxes out at 3000 on the AV manger.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to El Quintron

What really makes me curious is why Netflix still does not have peering at TorIX. They have added additional exchanges in London, Los Angeles, New York, São Paulo, and Stockholm but still nothing in Toronto to have some peering coverage in Canada.



spock

join:2012-07-08

Do we have to use teksavvy dns to take advantage of this hd or can we continue to DNS providers like google.



El Quintron
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said by spock:

Do we have to use teksavvy dns to take advantage of this hd or can we continue to DNS providers like google.

Good question I'm using Overplay SmartDNS and I wonder if that will impact it...
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TheMG
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reply to TOPDAWG

said by TOPDAWG:

monitors do this same BS. Say compatible with windows whatever version. Hell my dad got one years ago and asked why he picked that one and he said one reason said it was compatible with windows so he knew it would work.

Marketing strategy made successful by the fact that many people just don't know that a monitor is OS-independent.

Sad but true.

As for Netflix, I don't think it's in their favor at all to only state Windows 8.

dm1336

join:2011-08-07
Scarborough, ON
reply to TOPDAWG

X-Men, Captain America, Transformers to name a few
Breaking Bad and Fringe to name a couple TV Shows

Most of what was on the PS3 had the Super HD icon, it got hard to find something in regular HD.

On my PC running Windows 7 I did not see any Super HD icons



spock

join:2012-07-08

On the topic of Windows 8, isn't the CEO of netflix on the board of directors at microsoft?


Riplin

join:2002-05-13
canada

It's a Windows 8 plug, I don't think 8 is doing so well.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to TOPDAWG

said by TOPDAWG:

monitors do this same BS. Say compatible with windows whatever version. Hell my dad got one years ago and asked why he picked that one and he said one reason said it was compatible with windows so he knew it would work.

Some products do only work with certain OS's. Doing so for a monitor is silly unless its a monitor with a USB connection.

d0rmamu

join:2004-09-28
Toronto, ON
reply to El Quintron

Is SuperHD content labelled somehow when viewing the Netflix catalog?

I am using unblock-us and the Netflix page gives me the green 'ready for SuperHD'. But in the catalog I see nothing new or different.


stevey_frac

join:2009-12-09
Cambridge, ON
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You won't see new shows, you'll only see higher quality for existing shows.

I upgraded to Win 8 to try it out, and a lot of content does appear to be available in 'Super HD'.

With regards to what 'Super HD' means, there seems to be some confusion. Essentially, it is just higher bitrate video. Previously, the highest bitrates were 2000 kbit, and 3200 kbit(only available on a few movies). Now we have a 5000 kbit and 7000 kbit tier. I'd expect some content to look twice as good if you can get the 7000 kbit stream going!


stevey_frac

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reply to El Quintron

So, I've got Win 8 installed, and I get the green 'Super HD Ready' thing, but i'm unable to stream any content at the new high bitrates. Not seeing anything over 3200 kbit. no 5 mbit or 7mbit streams for me.

I'll have to play around with it some more tonight. It's possible that my DNS service to give me U.S. netflix is screwing it up.

Which would suck. That would mean i'd have to choose between good content selection and good looking content.

--Steve



Tx
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said by stevey_frac:

So, I've got Win 8 installed, and I get the green 'Super HD Ready' thing, but i'm unable to stream any content at the new high bitrates. Not seeing anything over 3200 kbit. no 5 mbit or 7mbit streams for me.

I'll have to play around with it some more tonight. It's possible that my DNS service to give me U.S. netflix is screwing it up.

Which would suck. That would mean i'd have to choose between good content selection and good looking content.

--Steve

how do you even know super HD is enabled on the PS3 or Wii U ? I don't have windows 8 so i can't try that.


mlerner
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Nepean, ON
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reply to stevey_frac

Super HD requires ISP support which includes the Netflix appliance and transit to Netflix's network so try on Tek with the Canadian version directly. Likely doesn't work on your DNS service because they are not setup for that.



TOPDAWG
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reply to Tx

on PS3 just highlight a titles and it will say it's super HD. captain america is a title that has it. Here is a screen.



rodjames
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join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to El Quintron

UnoTelly also has SuperHD woot!



mlerner
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said by rodjames:

UnoTelly also has SuperHD woot!

Hmm.. now that might get me to switch from Unblock US.


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clarknova

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reply to TSI Gabe

said by TSI Gabe:

edit: we already have it

You can verify by looking at this page.

»www.netflix.com/superhd

But not out west, right? That page tells me

quote:
Your Internet Provider is ready for Super HD!
Your Internet Provider is part of the Open Connect network, a free partnership with Netflix. Netflix will automatically play movies and TV shows in Super HD on a supported device if your connection is fast enough.
I have 8x6 (42Mbps effective) MLPPP and a Roku 2 XS (1080p), but no SuperHD titles show up.
--
db


Tx
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reply to TOPDAWG

said by TOPDAWG:

on PS3 just highlight a titles and it will say it's super HD. captain america is a title that has it. Here is a screen.


Thanks buddy, appreciate that

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to mlerner

said by mlerner:

Super HD requires ISP support which includes the Netflix appliance and transit to Netflix's network so try on Tek with the Canadian version directly. Likely doesn't work on your DNS service because they are not setup for that.

appliance yes, peering is optional.