 GhastlyonePremium
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Las Vegas, NV
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Re: Need help building a desktop gaming computer Damn dude, I didn't know it was that bad. Literally taking a 4.2ghz overclock on an AMD Quad Core just to match an i3 Dual Core @ 3.3ghz. And more power usage and heat at that.
I feel ashamed now even recommending the AMD FX that I did. |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | reply to Aranarth
Good information but not really germane to the OP and his $600-Canadian budget--you can't really fit an i5-3570K and 7870 without cannibalizing money from other areas (i.e. bottom-of-the-barrel mobo/ram/psu/case).
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | reply to Ghastlyone
said by Ghastlyone:Damn dude, I didn't know it was that bad. Literally taking a 4.2ghz overclock on an AMD Quad Core just to match an i3 Dual Core @ 3.3ghz. And more power usage and heat at that. I feel ashamed now even recommending the AMD FX that I did. 4.2 GHz (4.3 GHz turbo) is the stock speed out of the box. You could probably push it a couple 100 mhz faster to match or edge out the i3 with a good cooler, but that will add additional cost.
It's really only the remotely viable choice for fanboys--any other Bulldozer/Piledriver is a waste of cash.
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 MavenPremium
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Canada | reply to Maven
Thank you for the suggestions. I will be looking into them tonight. |
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said by Krisnatharok:Good information but not really germane to the OP and his $600-Canadian budget--you can't really fit an i5-3570K and 7870 without cannibalizing money from other areas (i.e. bottom-of-the-barrel mobo/ram/psu/case).
I was giving an example of what I would do as an idea to save some money by upgrading a current machine. The article I linked is definitely related to the OP's question. Especially the Econobon on the 2nd page. |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | You're right, I missed the Econobox, although their prices will be less than what you can get it for in Canada. It's very similar to what I put together.
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 Gordo74Premium
join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA | reply to Krisnatharok
Build this, but make the video card a 7850, which is still $50 under you $700 budget. This will easily play any game on High settings for years to come as long as it is on one monitor.
To save an extra $20, you could go with a WD Blue Series hard drive, which I actually find runs quieter and just as fast in real world performance.
»www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as···22136769 |
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kudos:7 | Maven initially said "$500-600," then came back and said "If I have to pay $700, I'll just get a laptop."
I think the laptop reasoning is flawed as all he'll be able to buy at that point is a GT630M and a 768p LCD at either 11, 13, or 14" form factors. Not much of a computer.
If he could afford the computer I put together for him with the 7850, that would be a rather beastly rig that should have no problem with any current games.
Add a 32GB SSD for caching and it should fly.
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MavenPremium
join:2002-03-12
Canada | reply to Maven
Hey guys, I'm kinda swamped right now so this whole computer buying business is on the backburner, but I should be able to looking into this Sunday (hopefully).
I haven't abandoned the idea of buying a desktop BTW, so I appreciate all the suggestions. |
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MavenPremium
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Canada | reply to Krisnatharok
Hey Krisnatharok, thank you for your suggestion. I think I may just go with your build.
Quick question though - what is the point of moving up to a full sized motherboard and case?
Also, do you know if the build you outlined would be reasonably quiet? I'm kinda difficult about fan noise. |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | It will be relatively quiet.
You can certainly go for a "cool n quiet" PC case and a fanless PSU, but it will cost more.
It's almost as if the saying "you can have fast, quiet, and cheap--pick two of three" is true here. I think the Rosewill fanless PSU is $170USD.
I don't think you need to resort to those measures though. Build it, assess the noise levels (it will be quiet), then go from there.
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Here is some perspective. Buy the best you can afford right now that will meet the Windows Recommended System Requirements for your games or soft-wares. Read more about passive cooling if you want quiet. i7 is for bragging rights.
Far Cry 3 system requirements (recommended)
CPU: 2.4 GHz quad core Intel
RAM: 2GB
Graphics: DirectX 11 compatible card with 1GB of video memory, Nvidia 400-series or better
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MavenPremium
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So is there no point in upgrading to a full sized motherboard and case besides wanting more space for extra hard-drives and such? |
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 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium
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kudos:2 | More expansion slots, like usually four memory slots instead of just two, and room for more expansion cards. A mid tower holds a full size board just fine, and it's the most common type of case people buy. |
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On the topic of quiet, if you can find the spare cash, these cases are the duck's innards.
»www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=99
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High density noise-reducing material for an optimal silent case - To achieve a high level of noise reduction, material with mass should be incorporated which is what we strive to achieve with the dense bitumen used on the side panels.
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MavenPremium
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Canada
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How can I know about bottlenecks? For example, using a Radeon 7850 with an i3?
EDIT: NVM, the i3 is apparently fine.
I'm just about ready to purchase this thing. If anyone could suggest another case though, that would be great. |
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MavenPremium
join:2002-03-12
Canada | reply to Maven
OK I found a case, here is my shopping cart. Any feedback is appreciated.
Fractal Design Arc Mini Black High Performance PC Computer Case w/ USB 3.0 and 3 Fractal Design Silent Fans - $89.99
»www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as···11352008
EDIMAX EW-7612PIn PCI Express Wireless Adapter - $24.99
SAPPHIRE 100358L Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 CrossFireX Support Video Card - 119.99
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - 64.99
Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W Dual-Core Desktop Processor ... +
ASRock Z77M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $232.98
For a grand total of $600 after taxes and shipping.
I have a spare HDD. |
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Gordo74Premium
join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA | reply to Maven
I think that looks good, however, I cannot stress enough, *if* you can upgrade to a 7850, I would do that in a heartbeat. |
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MavenPremium
join:2002-03-12
Canada | The 7850 recommends a minimum of 500W PSU, which is what I would be getting as per the build Krisnatharok suggested.
Wouldn't I need to upgrade the PSU? |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | I think you may be forgetting memory and optical drive...
The 7850's TDP is 130w, so you could get away with a 400w PSU if it's a good one. But a 500w is more than spacious. |
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