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joleen

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[OT] [Rant] Holmes on Homes

Mike Holmes shows has been a favorite for a long time; now he has been switched to the DIY channel. As Comcast subscribers (internet as well as TV), we feel gypped! Ripped off! Disgusted!


Oregonian
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join:2000-12-21
West Linn, OR

Re: [Rant] Holmes on Homes

Is he still doing new shows? I always liked Holmes on Homes and Holmes Inspection.


Master Wolfe

join:2009-04-04
Panama City, FL
reply to joleen
I don't understand. Is he a comcast employee? What does Comcast have to do with him switching networks?

neufuse

join:2006-12-06
James Creek, PA
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reply to joleen
only thing I don't like about the switch is we don't get DIY in HD... at least when he was on HGTV it was in HD

but when did he switch? he was always a DIY show, they just put it on HGTV as a secondary source... and it was still on Sundays at 7PM last time I checked and there are no new episodes, he's done other shows since then


flwpwr

@comcast.net
reply to joleen
Website says its airing on both HGTV and DIY.
»www.diynetwork.com/mike-holmes/b···dex.html

So just go back to watching him on HGTV in HD?

Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to Master Wolfe
he's Canadian and I think Shaw media does the shows.

andyross
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join:2003-05-04
Schaumburg, IL
reply to joleen
Is he still making new shows? Generally, DIY is mostly moldy-oldie HGTV programs.


camper
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said by andyross:

Is he still making new shows? Generally, DIY is mostly moldy-oldie HGTV programs.

 
HGTV also is mostly moldy-oldie HGTV programs.


ninjadude

join:2002-01-06
Aurora, IL
reply to joleen
Been watching him for some time on Comcast DIY in HD ch 249. Move here

SpHeRe31459
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reply to joleen
So really the title of your post should have been something like "No DIY in HD". I agree it's really lame that DIY is not offered in HD as I enjoy things like Mega Dens and the Crashers shows.

From what I can tell the majority of Comcast markets do not have it in HD, only a few have it. Dish Network was the only satellite provider to carry it until this last Fall when DirecTV finally added it. Also from a quick look around the web, it looks like most other MSOs also do not carry it in HD, I can only think it must be considered the runt of the Scripps Networks litter.


marti
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reply to joleen
H on H is not in HD here in Houston. No new shows.
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dgass

join:2007-09-27
Etobicoke, ON
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reply to joleen
»www.hgtv.ca/hosts/mike-holmes/?hostid=36939

He is still doing shows, his new series is called 'Holmes Makes It Right'


djrobx
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reply to joleen
HGTV used to run Holmes on Homes on the weekend evenings, I don't see that in their current schedule any more.

Seeing something good available on DIY but in SD was a huge peeve until DirecTV finally added DIYHD it for us. I find DIY itself annoying - neither DIY nor HGTV have quite enough programming. HGTV is relegated to House Hunters marathons half the time. I remember when it used to be only twice a night. They'd be better off consolidating and running one good network.

HGTV still runs DIY "crashers" shows on the weekend mornings.
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camper
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said by djrobx:

... They'd be better off consolidating and running one good network....

 
It is like shelf space at the supermarket - content providers try to use up as many of the channels as possible with their own content, squeezing out other content providers.

It is a business model that focuses on quantity of channels provided, not the quality of the material on those channels.

andyross
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And the per-subscriber $$$ they get for each channel...

So many channels, but so few actual media companies...


camper
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said by andyross:

And the per-subscriber $$$ they get for each channel...

So many channels, but so few actual media companies...

 
From Comcast's vantagepoint, more per-subscriber $$$ equals higher profit, so Comcast would not be inclined to do anything to discourage the tend towards more channels filled with lower-quality content from fewer media providers; indeed, from a stock valuation viewpoint, Comcast would want to encourage the trend.

Comcast's more than doubling of their profit for the most recent quarterly report would seem to indicate that their apparent strategy of lower-quality content across more channels appears to be working.


marti
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reply to joleen
As a Comcast customer, I am not happy with the many channels that are available: reruns or not what I want to watch. However, I do find shows to watch.
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andyross
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reply to camper
Actually, cable companies are not very happy about all these 'extra' channels being forced on them. Despite the annual increases, they are aware that people are starting to tune out. All of the fights lately have put carriage costs into the news, and more and more people are aware that the increases are not just pure cable company greed, but more and more about media companies demanding more for less.

TimeWarnerCable is starting to DROP some channels like Ovation to save a few pennies.


camper
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said by andyross:

Actually, cable companies are not very happy about all these 'extra' channels being forced on them....

 
If the cable companies can get the profit they want from the additional channels, they would be happy to carry them.

The problem may be that the consumers are reluctant to pay more to the cable companies for such low-quality repetitious content, and the cable companies are looking for more profitable usage of the channels.

Personally, I'd prefer to see the ability to select which channels I would like to receive. There's no reason why I would want all those sports-oriented channels, which are reputed to be the most expensive non-premium channels offered.

With ESPN alone going for upwards of $5.00 per month per subscriber, with the money saved I might even want to bump up my HSI tier a notch.

Though, I have to admit, I'm not holding my breath for the ability to have a finer resolution in the channels selection I pay for. Comcast can't even get their current paradigm working. For example, according to the price increase inserts in my latest bill, I should be receiving Bloomberg TV in HD with the digital starter package. Yet, the channel is nowhere to be seen....

mariod

join:2009-06-16

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said by camper:

Personally, I'd prefer to see the ability to select which channels I would like to receive. There's no reason why I would want all those sports-oriented channels, which are reputed to be the most expensive non-premium channels offered.

With ESPN alone going for upwards of $5.00 per month per subscriber, with the money saved I might even want to bump up my HSI tier a notch.

Until you realized that the channels you chose to watch are all off the air because not enough people chose to subscribe to them.

Or that they all tailored their program to generic broad audiences while cancelling the shows you watch now.


camper
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said by mariod:

...Until you realized that the channels you chose to watch are all off the air because not enough people chose to subscribe to them....Or that they all tailored their program to generic broad audiences while cancelling the shows you watch now.

 
How do you know what channels I choose to watch?

How do you know what shows I watch now?


mariod

join:2009-06-16

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said by camper:

How do you know what channels I choose to watch?
How do you know what shows I watch now?

It doesn't matter. They'll all be re-calibrated to the widest audience possible since they have to compete for a la carte dollars. Which means they'll all turn into broadcast network television and sports.

If you enjoy network TV, you wouldn't be complaining about cable channels. And you already said you don't want sports.

Whatever niche programs and channels you like would be obliterated by al la carte cable.


camper
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said by mariod:

It doesn't matter. They'll all be re-calibrated to the widest audience possible since they have to compete for a la carte dollars. Which means they'll all turn into broadcast network television and sports.

 
When you say things like "the channels I watch are all going off the air", it certainly does matter.

So I'll ask once again, how do you know the channels I watch and that they all are going off the air?

The other possibility, which runs completely counter to what you assert, and is a possible outcome that has been verified by a couple of studies (studies funded outside the bias of the cable industry), is that the channel offerings can get more diverse. The reasoning was that the money that is not being spent on unwanted mass-interest channels (like the very expensive sports channels) is now spent on more specialized channels.

Additionally, the dire scenario you paint has already occurred under the present business model. Expensive sports programming has taken over a large part of the channel slots and the monthly bill, even for those who do not want it. The Learning Channel has changed from a very good channel to a chewing gum for the brain reality channel. Ditto for Discovery Channel. And the two History channels are moving in the same direction.

So I say, let's try a different model to see it it brings back better offerings.

mariod

join:2009-06-16

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said by camper:

So I'll ask once again, how do you know the channels I watch and that they all are going off the air?

Try reading my post again since it flew over your head the first time.

Or your own post.
said by camper:

The Learning Channel has changed from a very good channel to a chewing gum for the brain reality channel. Ditto for Discovery Channel. And the two History channels are moving in the same direction.



camper
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said by mariod:

said by camper:

So I'll ask once again, how do you know the channels I watch and that they all are going off the air?

Try reading my post again since it flew over your head the first time.

Or your own post.
said by camper:

The Learning Channel has changed from a very good channel to a chewing gum for the brain reality channel. Ditto for Discovery Channel. And the two History channels are moving in the same direction.

 
The Learning Channel did not go off the air. Nor did Discovery and the History channels.

mariod

join:2009-06-16
How about a third attempt at reading my post and understanding it? Here's a hint, check out the word "or" in my sentence, it's a miracle worker.


camper
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said by mariod:

How about a third attempt at reading my post and understanding it? Here's a hint, check out the word "or" in my sentence, it's a miracle worker.

 

You posted:

Until you realized that the channels you chose to watch are all off the air because not enough people chose to subscribe to them.

Or that they all tailored their program to generic broad audiences while cancelling the shows you watch now.

 
You post has two parts explaining what would happen if the cable companies go to an a la carte subscription model:

• you state that all the channels I watch could all go off the air

• you state that the channels would tailor their programs to generic broad audiences and cancel the shows I watch now.

You also have an "or" between those two statements. OK so far?

For the first part, I merely asked how you knew what channels I watch and how do you know that all those channels would go off the air. So far, you have avoided answering those two simple questions. Please feel free to explain how you know the channels I watch.

For part #2. I agree, with you. However, the channels are already moving towards appealing to generic broad audiences. Indeed, I even gave you some examples. Since this trend is already happening within the non-a-la-carte subscription model, your comment that it will happen under the a la carte does nothing to support any assertions you've made.

mariod

join:2009-06-16

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reply to joleen

Re: [OT] [Rant] Holmes on Homes

You need to do some research on what the word "or" means.

And probably stay off the internet until then.