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Re: Kayla Bourque - Killer in the waitingPutting someone in jail is violating their charter rights, by definition. As a society, we choose to call that reasonable when someone has committed a crime.
I'd put forth that this woman is mentally ill, as evidenced by her inclination to torture small animals and plan the murders of human beings, and so should be put into a mental hospital until she is well. That would violate her Charter rights. I feel it's reasonable. |
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2013-Jan-9 6:22 pm
said by dragonfly5:Putting someone in jail is violating their charter rights, by definition. As a society, we choose to call that reasonable when someone has committed a crime.
I'd put forth that this woman is mentally ill, as evidenced by her inclination to torture small animals and plan the murders of human beings, and so should be put into a mental hospital until she is well. That would violate her Charter rights. I feel it's reasonable. I think you might want to re-read the Charter. Imprisoning someone after due to trial is quite explicitly NOT a violation of Charter rights. Your ignorance in relation to mental illness is also telling. |
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Read it yourself. Section 9 of the Charter gives the authorities the right to deprive someone of their Section 7 rights after a trial.
And, really? Do you suppose someone who tortures kittens is all-right and dandy? |
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2013-Jan-9 7:00 pm
said by dragonfly5:Really? Do you suppose someone who tortures kittens is all-right and dandy? Ah. I see you are using medical terms. I don't think people who post asinine comments on online forums are "all-right and dandy" yet they may or may not be mentally ill. If criminal activity was a defining characteristic of mental illness, we wouldn't need prisons, everyone would be in a hospital. But there is more to a mental illness diagnosis. |
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said by NCRGuy:Ah. I see you are using medical terms. I don't think people who post asinine comments on online forums are "all-right and dandy" yet they may or may not be mentally ill. [deleted] If you feel so strongly that this woman is fit for release, how about you rent her a room in your house. Put your money where your mouth is. |
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said by NCRGuy:If criminal activity was a defining characteristic of mental illness, we wouldn't need prisons, everyone would be in a hospital. But there is more to a mental illness diagnosis. I'd argue that everyone, except people who were railroaded by the system, in prison have mental issues. If we focused on mental health a little more, there would be a lot of guards and police officers using employment services. |
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vue666 (banned)Let's make Canchat better!!! join:2007-12-07 |
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said by J E F F4:said by NCRGuy:If criminal activity was a defining characteristic of mental illness, we wouldn't need prisons, everyone would be in a hospital. But there is more to a mental illness diagnosis. I'd argue that everyone, except people who were railroaded by the system, in prison have mental issues. If we focused on mental health a little more, there would be a lot of guards and police officers using employment services. Or retrained as healthcare professionals... |
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