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mlord

join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
kudos:13
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
reply to neuromancer1

Re: torrent download woes - vpn as the way to get around them

said by neuromancer1:

... their Canadian VPN servers can only pull off 850KB/s from 2.2MB/s (18MB TSI Cable) connection.

That issue is undoubtedly due to saturation of the 512Kbit/sec uplink on your 18mbit/sec downlink cable connection, not a fault of the VPN service.

We really do need more ujplink!


neuromancer1

join:2007-01-22
York, ON
Reviews:
·VMedia

said by mlord:

said by neuromancer1:

... their Canadian VPN servers can only pull off 850KB/s from 2.2MB/s (18MB TSI Cable) connection.

That issue is undoubtedly due to saturation of the 512Kbit/sec uplink on your 18mbit/sec downlink cable connection, not a fault of the VPN service.

We really do need more ujplink!

Uh? It's normally pulls off 2.2 MB/s real world speeds over the internet easy, no speed boost. Torrent's pull the full 2.2 MB/s without their terrible server bogging them down. I'm using OpenVPN client installed on the computer with 3.0ghz CPU. Ethernet card is 10/100/1000 their no issue with my system it's their fault.

Nemo888

join:2005-12-25
Canada
reply to Blackguard

I've never used PIA's Canadian servers. Canada has log retention regulations and the Canadian courts can tell them to release them. They are actually the only PIA server you should NEVER use.

So testing the only servers on the planet they have that can get you boned is kind of irrelevant.



Atticka

join:2001-11-26
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to GermanVPN

said by GermanVPN :

Air VPN. I see the full speed of whatever I get that night ( DSL ) through them. No limits on anything. Over 40 servers to choose from so you can jump around to one that's got good speed. No time limit ( so I've been on one for over a week ) on the connection which is great.

Agreed, I use them as well! Very good service.

I use a TP-LInk WR842ND ($40) with DDWRT loaded (this model support the OpenVPN client).

A note about AirVPN, they are operated out of Italy, any legal action would have to come from local authorities as they do not recognize US or Canadian jurisdiction.

Requests for account details are ignored and hold no weight with them.


rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to Blackguard

seedstuff.ca

don't vpn.



fluffybunny

@teksavvy.com
reply to Atticka

i use mullvad.net. send them cash in the mail and they store nothing. even if they did untraceable cash in the mail is best.
they also give you a day free. on my TSI connection i got 1.8MB/s no problem.


Who7

join:2012-12-18

Be careful of which VPN you use. I backtracked a lot of VPN's and some of them have several nnames but are under the same roof.

I have a tough time believing that US VPN's are safe.

Ideally, you want a storage box that will collect what you want and then a tunnel...and then....go with a ISP provider that has the least amount of data retention times.


Who7

join:2012-12-18
reply to Atticka

said by Atticka:

Agreed, I use them as well! Very good service.

I use a TP-LInk WR842ND ($40) with DDWRT loaded (this model support the OpenVPN client).

A note about AirVPN, they are operated out of Italy, any legal action would have to come from local authorities as they do not recognize US or Canadian jurisdiction.

Requests for account details are ignored and hold no weight with them.

Are you sure? REALLY SURE? Here is what I get from who is when I ping their site....

»airvpn.org/ is a URI.
Domain Dossier will continue with airvpn.org.

Address lookup

canonical name airvpn.org.
aliases
addresses 212.117.180.25
Domain Whois record

Queried whois.publicinterestregistry.net with "airvpn.org"...

Domain ID:D159308331-LROR
Domain Name:AIRVPN.ORG
Created On:31-May-2010 12:37:22 UTC
Last Updated On:07-Oct-2012 15:04:44 UTC
Expiration Date:31-May-2013 12:37:22 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:CR78489865
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2:14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.4806242598
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:AIRVPN.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Admin ID:CR78489877
Admin Name:Registration Private
Admin Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Admin Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Admin Street2:14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Scottsdale
Admin State/Province:Arizona
Admin Postal Code:85260
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4806242599
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:+1.4806242598
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:AIRVPN.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Tech ID:CR78489871
Tech Name:Registration Private
Tech Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Tech Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Tech Street2:14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Scottsdale
Tech State/Province:Arizona
Tech Postal Code:85260
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.4806242599
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.4806242598
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:AIRVPN.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server:PDNS01.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:PDNS02.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
Name Server:
DNSSEC:Unsigned


rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·loclhost.ca

Address lookup

canonical name seedstuff.ca.
aliases
addresses 208.113.175.154
Domain Whois record

Queried whois.cira.ca with "seedstuff.ca"...

Domain name: seedstuff.ca
Domain status: registered
Creation date: 2011/04/06
Expiry date: 2013/04/06
Updated date: 2011/10/16

Registrar:
Name: PublicDomainRegistry.com Inc
Number: 3059041

Name servers:
ns3.seedstuff.ca 66.33.216.216
ns2.seedstuff.ca 208.96.10.221
ns1.seedstuff.ca 66.33.206.206
Network Whois record

Queried whois.arin.net with "n 208.113.175.154"...

NetRange: 208.113.128.0 - 208.113.255.255
CIDR: 208.113.128.0/17
OriginAS:
NetName: DREAMHOST-BLK6
NetHandle: NET-208-113-128-0-1
Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
RegDate: 2006-04-12
Updated: 2012-03-02
Ref: »whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-113-128-0-1

OrgName: New Dream Network, LLC
OrgId: NDN
Address: 417 Associated Rd.
Address: PMB #257
City: Brea
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 92821
Country: US
RegDate: 2001-04-17
Updated: 2012-09-27
Ref: »whois.arin.net/rest/org/NDN

OrgAbuseHandle: DAT5-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: DreamHost Abuse Team
OrgAbusePhone: +1-714-706-4182
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@dreamhost.com
OrgAbuseRef: »whois.arin.net/rest/poc/DAT5-ARIN

OrgNOCHandle: ZD69-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Network Operations
OrgNOCPhone: +1-714-706-4182
OrgNOCEmail: netops@dreamhost.com
OrgNOCRef: »whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZD69-ARIN

OrgTechHandle: MCRAE6-ARIN
OrgTechName: McRae, Kenneth
OrgTechPhone: +1-424-646-4949
OrgTechEmail: kenneth.mcrae@dreamhost.com
OrgTechRef: »whois.arin.net/rest/poc/MCRAE6-ARIN
DNS records

name class type data time to live
seedstuff.ca IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 30
exchange: aspmx4.googlemail.com
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN A 208.113.175.154 14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 20
exchange: alt2.aspmx.l.google.com
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 20
exchange: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 30
exchange: aspmx2.googlemail.com
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 10
exchange: aspmx.l.google.com
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN SOA
server: ns1.dreamhost.com
email: hostmaster@dreamhost.com
serial: 2013011000
refresh: 14478
retry: 1800
expire: 1814400
minimum ttl: 14400
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 30
exchange: aspmx5.googlemail.com
14400s (04:00:00)
seedstuff.ca IN MX
preference: 30
exchange: aspmx3.googlemail.com
14400s (04:00:00)
154.175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN PTR seedstuff.ca 14400s (04:00:00)
175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN SOA
server: ns1.dreamhost.com
email: hostmaster@dreamhost.com
serial: 2013011101
refresh: 21289
retry: 1800
expire: 1814400
minimum ttl: 14400
14400s (04:00:00)
175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN RRSIG
type covered: NSEC (47)
algorithm: RSA/SHA-1 (5)
labels: 5
original ttl: 10800 (03:00:00)
signature expiration: 2013-01-21 01:00:20Z
signature inception: 2013-01-11 01:00:20Z
key tag: 12890
signer's name: 208.in-addr.arpa
signature:
(1024 bits)
8C36AE7C50507E8E622E74331124E6E0
ADB2AD7E7B50493EBBC5650C062841CB
BE64550D77D723F80FED85ED85A548EE
1A80A791D8000E04E6376B1B5C858B33
622C3EDF39CBCC99A8E1F050642EB04A
EC0C9E8D408270F1C98540AEE04F0E38
9762AC55542CB5F7C1DD7CEF0B89EED3
81D19BC77513287CE9D5C8CE43A7F2B3
10800s (03:00:00)
175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN NSEC
next domain name: 176.113.208.in-addr.arpa
record types: NS RRSIG NSEC
10800s (03:00:00)
175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00)
175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN NS ns3.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00)
175.113.208.in-addr.arpa IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com 14400s (04:00:00)
Traceroute

Tracing route to seedstuff.ca [208.113.175.154]...

hop rtt rtt rtt ip address fully qualified domain name
1 1 1 1 70.84.211.97 61.d3.5446.static.theplanet.com
2 0 0 0 70.87.254.5 po101.dsr02.dllstx5.networklayer.com
3 0 0 0 70.85.127.109 po52.dsr02.dllstx3.networklayer.com
4 0 0 0 173.192.18.230 ae17.bbr02.eq01.dal03.networklayer.com
5 0 0 0 80.239.195.177 dls-bb1-link.telia.net
6 35 35 35 213.155.130.68 ash-bb4-link.telia.net
7 41 105 34 213.155.130.1 ash-bb1-link.telia.net
8 35 35 35 213.248.95.138 internap-ic-140171-ash-bb1.c.telia.net
9 35 35 35 216.52.127.9 border10.pc1-bbnet1.wdc002.pnap.net
10 34 34 34 216.52.125.74 dreamhost-2.border10.wdc002.pnap.net
11 36 36 36 208.113.156.6 ip-208-113-156-6.dreamhost.com
12 40 37 36 208.113.156.14 ip-208-113-156-14.dreamhost.com
13 34 34 34 208.113.175.154 seedstuff.ca


GermanVPN

@aruba.it
reply to Who7

While the AirVPN lookup is exciting, that is the host of their website frontpage. Having paid for the service its fairly obvious where the funds are going (Italy) and where the company itself is registered out of. I also don't see mention of Leaseweb, based out of the Netherlands who are a part of the service.

I don't really care where they choose to host their North American website. I care where the business is registered, which is in Italy.



rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to Blackguard

Unotelly also has vpn service, it's reasonably priced.


Nemo888

join:2005-12-25
Canada

1 edit
reply to Blackguard

PIA is really sucking lately. The US East and Midwest servers are crapping out regularly and torrents are not moving at all.



TraderOne

@teksavvy.com
reply to Tong

said by Tong:

Instead of dedicated machine, if you have enough RAM. You can always setup a Virtual Machine for Download.

I use XunLei for some of my Chinese/Japanese shows, I use a VM, it works well.

If I'm going to get a VPN, I would use another VM.

Hi Tong,

Can you explain how a VM can hide your track?

Thanks


Atticka

join:2001-11-26
Montreal, QC
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to GermanVPN

said by GermanVPN :

While the AirVPN lookup is exciting, that is the host of their website frontpage. Having paid for the service its fairly obvious where the funds are going (Italy) and where the company itself is registered out of. I also don't see mention of Leaseweb, based out of the Netherlands who are a part of the service.

I don't really care where they choose to host their North American website. I care where the business is registered, which is in Italy.

This.

Domain registration is one thing, VPN server and business registration is another.

Also, Domains By Proxy LLC is listed as the registrant. This is a service specifically used to protect the privacy of the domain owner.

Check it out
»www.domainsbyproxy.com/Default.aspx

So who actually owns AirVPN.org?

Shredda

join:2008-10-28
London, ON

IIRC, DomainsByProxy is owned by GoDaddy... and we know how well they supported customers back when SOPA was an issue. Just saying...


The Mongoose

join:2010-01-05
Toronto, ON
reply to rodjames

said by rodjames:

seedstuff.ca

don't vpn.

How does this solve the privacy issue, though? What if they get hit with a motion demanding they fork over the ID of customer X using a certain seedbox IP at a given time?

Not arguing, legitimately asking.

coolspot18

join:2012-10-23
reply to stevey_frac

said by stevey_frac:

Use BT Guard.

I find BT Guard unreliable ... BTGuard seems to hang from time to time and I need to manually switch the proxy IP address. Is this your case too?

coolspot18

join:2012-10-23
reply to Tong

said by Tong:

Instead of dedicated machine, if you have enough RAM. You can always setup a Virtual Machine for Download.

This one help - they'll still come after you because the downloads come from your IP address.

coolspot18

join:2012-10-23
reply to XNemesis

said by XNemesis:

Don't you also have to buy a specific router that's powerful enough to handle VPN so you don't suffer considerable speed loss?

Only if you want VPN to protect your entire network. The VPN company also needs to support PPTP or IPSec. TP-Link has a very fast VPN router for about 250.00. You can probably find a 20mbps+ VPN router for ~100.00.

Otherwise just launch the VPN client software each time you want to download something.

Tong

join:2012-12-11
r3t 38x
reply to coolspot18

I meant running a VM with VPN running with it. I have a VM running with ProXPN in it, it works well..



rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to The Mongoose

That's a problem for the owner of the seedbox, not you as a client. When you sign up with this guy, all you need is an email address. You can even send him cash in the mail. He's that good.


Voltage

join:2013-01-13
reply to Blackguard

how about HMA vpn? i did a brief google search and it seems highly rated.


tired

join:2010-12-12
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·TELUS

If you're going to pay real money to pirate, then why not just pay the content owners who actually make the stuff that you enjoy watching?

It costs a couple bucks at most to rent a movie these days... Hell, a month of Netflix is comparable to a visit to Starbucks. So why not just do the right thing and save the headache?

To answer your question: HMA keeps logs and will turn them over for a court order, which will reveal your home IP address which will lead to your info when your ISP is served with a court order. So you're slightly harder to track, but definitely not impossible.



d4m1r

join:2011-08-25
Reviews:
·Start Communicat..

said by tired:

If you're going to pay real money to pirate, then why not just pay the content owners who actually make the stuff that you enjoy watching?

It costs a couple bucks at most to rent a movie these days... Hell, a month of Netflix is comparable to a visit to Starbucks. So why not just do the right thing and save the headache?

It doesn't sound like you are very well informed on the issues....
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tired

join:2010-12-12

Care to enlighten me on what relevant piece of information I'm missing out on? Because paying to pirate seems pretty counter-intuitive to me.



Kev
TekSavvy.com
Premium
join:2005-06-12
canada
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

said by tired:

Care to enlighten me on what relevant piece of information I'm missing out on? Because paying to pirate seems pretty counter-intuitive to me.

Ideally for heavy users not typical users. One fraction of the cost for 100x of downloads. Only if Netflix can offer a much bigger tv and movies selection. The pirating will stop. Because you rather pay about the same and it's legal.
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callous88

@nltelcom.com
reply to Nemo888

Re: torrent download woes - vpn as the way to get around them

said by Nemo888:

PIA is really sucking lately. The US East and Midwest servers are crapping out regularly and torrents are not moving at all.

You do understand the US east / midwest arent the designated servers for torrenting? Nevermind that the ports are opened for these servers.. the capacity is a fraction of what is available on the netherlands servers.

Are you sure you know what you're doing?