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caffeinator
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Re: Is "tin foil" now a banned phrase in this forum?

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Cat in the Tinfoil Hat FTW!



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said by Blackbird:

said by StuartMW:

said by NetFixer:

...I wear my aluminum foil hat with pride...

Aluminum doesn't work that well

On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets

Go for copper/silver instead.

»www.lessemf.com/personal.html

To be truly effective, a tinfoil hat must be made from a thin sheet of mu-metal, which is magnetically permeable as well as a metallic conductor. Otherwise, magnetic fields will largely pass right through. Since we're usually dealing with electro-magnetic waves, attenuating both electric (with a grounded metallic shield) and magnetic (with magnetically permeable material) fields is the most effective approach. Mu-metal is what they used to wrap around CRT display tubes to reduce the distortion effects of external magnetic fields on the deflecting electron beam painting the phosphor on the inner surface of the screen.

Aluminum Tin foil hats may actually increase rather than decrease the reception of signals.

»berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/

The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ''radio location'' (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations.

It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings.


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Re: Is "tin foil" now a banned phrase in this forum?

Or, the mods are just, over zealous? That's my take on it.



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said by caffeinator:

Obligatory pic....

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Cat in the Tinfoil Hat FTW!

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I prefer 'One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish Cause Cancer' myself.

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I remember some posts that I thought were mean toward another in this forum. Some of them had the reference to tin foil hats too. I never paid attention as to if they were deleted or not.

But now, I guess I'm glad if they were. I for one, am tired of threads that COULD have something worthwhile in them, just not being read because people think they can put someone else down. Discussion is a good thing. But picking on people because you are one of the "good old boys" stinks.

You all have missed many of my pearls of wisdom. Believe it or not, that's actually sad for you.

So, that is my say on it.
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There once was a forum called "security".

Its members had dropped into obscurity.

A rallying cry of "Tin foil hat".

The moderator said "I'll second that".

And their future is now a surety.
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said by caffeinator:

Cat in the Tinfoil Hat FTW!

Actually, that's a Jedi training picture from "Yoda, the Early Years". The hair fell out as he aged.
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said by NetFixer:

That did not appear to be the case in the posts that I recently saw being obliterated (and served as a catalyst to start this thread). However, some people are more thin skinned than others.

Which threads?
Moderation occurs usually with "hey mods" (from all sources) or moderated by MOD's personally.
I find it a bit confusing returning to a thread the has been moderated and having to guess why the moderation has occurred.
If it was just to because somebody cried "TINFOIL HAT", i guess it's no big loss.
Rewriting the post with an actual claim might not of occurred to some?

said by jeanmarc:

Into this forum he did blunder
Whilst wearing a tin foil hat

Perceived blunders= equal the use of Foil.
I personally wouldn't want to wear a "Tinfoil hat" How would you know what the aliens are planning next.
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said by OZO:

May be because the loose translation of "tin foil" reference is - a "person, who cares about security"?

Some individuals take it to a level beyond any rational human.


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Since 2007, (thanks to Michael Menkin) Velostat has been used by the well dressed Security Gurus.

»www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales···1371053/

Tin foil hats are totally last-season.

»www.intrepidmag.com/blog/stoppin···eadgear/
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To mitigate mind control try acupuncture.
This way you will know just how big a probe they intent on inserting before it happens.
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I think the best defense for Security is a big dog. As a young moderator in training, Wildcatboy considered this the first line layer of Security while he monitored the perimeter for other possible hazards.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-MjUC4f9k


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said by Name Game:

Since 2007, (thanks to Michael Menkin) Velostat has been used by the well dressed Security Gurus.

»www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales···1371053/

Tin foil hats are totally last-season.

»www.intrepidmag.com/blog/stoppin···eadgear/

And then Hank's Intrepid site leaves us hanging with this little gem:
quote:
... Menkin’s website claims that his homemade anti-alien headgear has only failed in two instances since 1998.
I wanna hear about those failures! Come on, guys...!
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said by Blackbird:

said by Name Game:

Since 2007, (thanks to Michael Menkin) Velostat has been used by the well dressed Security Gurus.

»www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales···1371053/

Tin foil hats are totally last-season.

»www.intrepidmag.com/blog/stoppin···eadgear/

And then Hank's Intrepid site leaves us hanging with this little gem:
quote:
... Menkin’s website claims that his homemade anti-alien headgear has only failed in two instances since 1998.
I wanna hear about those failures! Come on, guys...!

Well, possibly the first link is one of those failures:




I used to have a very stylish anodized aluminum hard hat with some really nice lighting bolt decals, but it was so stylish that someone stole it.
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said by ctggzg:

said by OZO:

May be because the loose translation of "tin foil" reference is - a "person, who cares about security"?

Some individuals take it to a level beyond any rational human.

For thousands of years "rational" human thought that Earth is flat. They did not know (and couldn't even imagine) that Earth is a planet and it rotates around the Sun. Similarly, "rational" people did not know how nature is creating and modifying living species and they couldn't imagine that too. Similarly, "rational" people could not imagine, that there is theory of relativity, that could explain many unexplainable before things...

Bottom line. Sometimes "rational" people should try to understand what "irrational" say. May be it will open their eyes into a world of a new knowledge.
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JALevinworth

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said by NetFixer:

I did a search of this forum before starting this thread, and the newest post I could find was dated December 22nd 2012.

You forgot to test for if any other current words/phrases can be searched to rule out why you can't find "tin foil". You'd find not a single word from this thread, besides tin foil" can be searched either.

In fact, if you'd search by your handle name, and sort by date (newest first) the last thing you've posted on this site is 12/31/2012.

Don't be concerned, the site index has been down since 1/1/2013. It happens every year because justin has to manually update the date in the code (it's static, not dynamic), and then it takes some time after that to re-index all the posts for many days until that happens.

2013: »Search is broken again :(
2012: »*Bump* Search Index
2011 »[bug] Search Index Hamsters: Vacation? Stuck in Traffic?..Anarch

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said by JALevinworth :

said by NetFixer:

I did a search of this forum before starting this thread, and the newest post I could find was dated December 22nd 2012.

You forgot to test for if any other current words/phrases can be searched to rule out why you can't find "tin foil". You'd find not a single word from this thread, besides tin foil" can be searched either.

In fact, if you'd search by your handle name, and sort by date (newest first) the last thing you've posted on this site is 12/31/2012.

Thanks for the heads up on the search problem; I had not done many site/forum searches lately, and had not noticed that.

However, the primary trigger for this thread was seeing several posts containing the phrase "tin foil" disappear while I was viewing a thread. They were posts that I would deem to be innocuous (or even mildly humorous), not flames or trolling, so I was just curious if perhaps there was a new unannounced forum rule. The search I did was just an (apparently futile) attempt to answer my own question.

The search problem would however tend to make the prohibition on multiple threads on the same topic hard to comply with.
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said by NetFixer:

Thanks for the heads up on the search problem; I had not done many site/forum searches lately, and had not noticed that.

No problem, Boss. FYI the search index borks a few times a year and always at the New Year. I am usually the first one who notices because I use a saved search of my handle (JALevinworth) in my bookmarks toolbar to find my posts and their replies. Quite lost without it and am too old to remember where I was most of the time, lol. I digress, but it's usually a good idea to check if it's not working and/or the site bugs forum.
said by NetFixer:

However, the primary trigger for this thread was seeing several posts containing the phrase "tin foil" disappear while I was viewing a thread. They were posts that I would deem to be innocuous (or even mildly humorous), not flames or trolling, so I was just curious if perhaps there was a new unannounced forum rule. The search I did was just an (apparently futile) attempt to answer my own question.

The search problem would however tend to make the prohibition on multiple threads on the same topic hard to comply with.

I didn't see what you saw, but it's possible it had less to do with that phrase or even a single post than something in the content of the whole the thread. Or, the way the post sounded like to the mods ears was different than the way than it was intended. I rarely have anything removed, but I know there have been a couple of times over the years where something I posted that was completely innocuous that was summarily deleted that left me scratching my head. I could only conclude it was totally misunderstood or it was done in error. I don't worry about it, but instead remember the mods are mostly volunteers and humans too. Maybe the post you saw was one of those things too. (I also imagine that there are some people who may be on a shorter leash warning than others from previous behaviors too.) It's so hard to tell and left to the mysteries of the Gods here. Not that your concern isn't valid, but other things to consider as well.

If it helps, I tried to do a google search on the site for that phrase. Doing that kind of search, focused on last month and found this reference from 1/9. That might not be the newest reference besides this thread, because I got a ton of overload repeats from this thread plus old stuff that shouldn't have been in there from I guess old link references on new pages that I wasn't going to sift through either.

Hope this helps.
-Jim


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said by NetFixer:

I do understand that there is a policy on this site that does not permit discussion of "moderation", but how is one to know what the verboten words, phrases, and/or topics are if they can not be discussed?

I guess we can't ask AVD what happened?
But PM's are ok? yes/no?
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said by ashrc4:

I guess we can't ask AVD what happened?

no comment...
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You will have help addressing the menace..»www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20···to-book/



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said by Name Game:

You will have help addressing the menace..»www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20···to-book/

quote:
...the group’s ultimate purpose — protect humanity from aliens living in our bodies, who are bent on destroying us and ultimately the planet. ...
Hmm. If the aliens are already in our bodies, it seems like a tinfoil (or even mu-metal) hat won't do much good then. Even if it blocks their alien-to-alien mental energy-beam communication system, they could just use their human hosts to send each other eMails instead.
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As you know from physics tin foil equally isolates electromagnetic field in both directions, coming to and going from isolated area. Therefore, there could be two meanings for "tin foil hat". One is for these, who don't want others to know what they think (protecting their own privacy from others). And second one is for those, who don't want to know what others may think (protecting themselves from outside opinions and/or thoughts). If you use this term, which one you usually refer to?
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said by OZO:

There is a third option where you isolate a particular area. Then wire in outside influences such as outside wifi or cell signals.
»www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/04/14···in-foil/
Can't find an article where obama enters a tent that kills outside signals so long as the tent is closed.
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How about "thin aluminum headgear?"



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said by roc5955:

How about "thin aluminum headgear?"

Personally, I prefer to use "not so thin aluminum headgear" (as shown below) because it also offers a bit of protection from falling sky pieces.




And of course with such stylish headgear, matching accessories are a necessity.



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