davePremium,MVM
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Re: Court Rules Texas Schoolgirl Must Be RFID Tagged Or Expelled What are the "religious" grounds for not wearing an RFID tag? Sure, I can sympathize with not wanting to be tagged, but the religious argument sounds particularly specious. Oh, I see: the "'number of the beast" batshit idiocy.
What are the "privacy" grounds for not wearing a non-RFID lanyard? That sounds to me like the school was willing to compromise with her laughable "religious" nonsense, but Hernandez was not willing. |
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Re: said by Dude111:Yes this is BS....... I hope she continues to refuse to wear this spying trash!!
Why? So the school knows she's where she belongs instead of out in the parking lot smoking or something? Heaven forbid!!!
And how is it "spying" on her? Does it film her when she goes home or when she goes to the bathroom?
She's in a PUBLIC school. Their property, their rules. Don't like it, go to a private school or be home schooled.
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Re: Court Rules Texas Schoolgirl Must Be RFID Tagged Or Expelled said by huntermcdole:Yeah we didn't have that for school when I was in HS (late 90's) but I completely forgot about the one around my neck at work everyday... you get use to it.. mine even has an RFID chip in it
The funny thing was only the "nerds" used the clips, the cool kids used lanyards. |
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South Padre Island, TX | reply to La Luna
Re: i bet it does spy on her remember that high school principle who used the schools laptops woth cams to spy on students btw are all the scools in texas doin this i need to know so we can sue the schools here |
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Re: Court Rules Texas Schoolgirl Must Be RFID Tagged Or Expelled This stuff is on the news over here and heres a few facts....
She is not really suppose to be at this school. The school is doing a trial of RFID tags, not the entire district. The school that she is suppose to be at doesnt do tracking. I believe she wants to go to this school for other reasons. The school district said she could JUST WEAR A ID, NO RFID INVOVLED but she said nope, its "the mark of the beast"........
The school is giving her a week to wear the ID WITHOUT rfid or go back to her homeschool where she SHOULD be attending that isnt even doing the rfid trial
Remember these are kids that should be in school. the only reason they are testing this out is because they were losing state funding from kids skipping class. Since the RFID tags, students arent skipping school that much.
In other news the school is trying to recoup court fees from her since this fiasco she started is costing the tax payers and also costing her education.
she had her 15 minutes of fame. she needs to suck it up, wear the ID without rfid or go back to her home school in the district where she belongs in the first place.
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San Antonio, TX | Also the title is misleading, SHE DOESNT HAVE TO WEAR THE RFID TAG, it is optional.
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I don't suppose having the last name of Hernandez in a Magnet School for Technology and Sciences in Texas would have anything to do with it?
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jay_S···_Academy
Nah, of course not.... 
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What happens when all the schools in the district opt for RFID - will she be denied the right to go to school? Will the school board be sued for denying her the right to attend school in that case?
I'm sure there's a law that requires minors to either attend school or be home-schooled, unless there is a medical reason why they can't be. |
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said by Warzau:said by huntermcdole:Yeah we didn't have that for school when I was in HS (late 90's) but I completely forgot about the one around my neck at work everyday... you get use to it.. mine even has an RFID chip in it
The funny thing was only the "nerds" used the clips, the cool kids used lanyards. I think somebody ought to sell a RFID pocket protector or a RFID slide rule case, for the real nerds. |
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Someone needs to tell her about her SSN (which is unique), drivers license (the number is also unique) etc. Im pretty sure those might be "the mark of the beast"
shes totally gona flip out when she finds out! 
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said by signmeuptoo:License plates on cars: Beware the mark of the beast! ;p
Oh that is perfect!
Thank you.
Made my day.
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said by dave:What are the "religious" grounds for not wearing an RFID tag? Sure, I can sympathize with not wanting to be tagged, but the religious argument sounds particularly specious. Oh, I see: the "'number of the beast" batshit idiocy.
What are the "privacy" grounds for not wearing a non-RFID lanyard? That sounds to me like the school was willing to compromise with her laughable "religious" nonsense, but Hernandez was not willing.
Batshit idiocy nails it.
I guess one delusion spawns another.
Dave
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united state | reply to dave
said by dave:What are the "religious" grounds for not wearing an RFID tag? Sure, I can sympathize with not wanting to be tagged, but the religious argument sounds particularly specious. Oh, I see: the "'number of the beast" batshit idiocy.
What are the "privacy" grounds for not wearing a non-RFID lanyard? That sounds to me like the school was willing to compromise with her laughable "religious" nonsense, but Hernandez was not willing.
Dave, is it really necessary to insult someones religious beliefs over them not wanting to wear an RFID tag? Look, I don't know what your religious beliefs are, and to be frank i don't care as its not part of this conversation. However, why ridicule someone's beliefs (this girl) as "batshit idiocy"? What has she done to you? what has she done to deserve such a statement? Her beliefs are not hurting anyone.
Are we not a country that was founded on the universal right to believe in any deity of your choice, and to practice any religion of your choice as long as they are not hurting anybody?
I don't believe bat shit idiocy was such a great word to use here. Schools are government funded, The Constitution states that the government "is not" allowed to interfere or infringe on anyones religious beliefs regardless of what someone thinks of them.
From the typical Christian next door, to the Church of Scientology...all have an equal right to not have their religious beliefs infringed upon by government organizations (which is what a school is, its funded by taxpayer money and that makes it a government institution, and is controlled by the Department of Education)
I am not trying to come across in any type of condescending manner. However, I think all of us(myself included) could learn a lot by just respecting each others rights and ideas, no matter how much we may disagree with them. I don't believe labeling anyone as crazy, or any other derogatory term in relation to their ideas or beliefs is productive at all. The term crazy and "tin foil" gets tossed around way too loosely these days and is used in situations it shouldn't be.
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kudos:8 | said by Woody79_00:Dave, is it really necessary to insult someones religious beliefs over them not wanting to wear an RFID tag? Yes, it's a specious argument.
However, why ridicule someone's beliefs (this girl) as "batshit idiocy"?
Are we not a country that was founded on the universal right to believe in any deity of your choice, and to practice any religion of your choice as long as they are not hurting anybody?
We're not talking about common-or-garden belief in some god, we're talking about a lunatic belief that says a simple identification badge is somehow the mark of the antichrist.
I don't think most christians would agree that a government-issued identification is inherently evil. Her opinions are fringe at best. At some point, we should not need to make accommodation for them.
Note that in fact she was offered a compromise on the RFID chip. But no, the lanyard alone was the mark of the beast. Batshit.
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kudos:8 | reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd:Lots of companies require the ID to be visible when not in your cube as well.
When I was working for several customers, I had a small collection of proximity and mag stripe cards and ID badges I needed to get access to elevators, tunnels, data centers, equipment closets and other restricted areas.
The used to issue them pretty freely, but I suspect that's not the case today..
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said by dave:said by Woody79_00:However, why ridicule someone's beliefs (this girl) as "batshit idiocy"? Because number-of-the-beast talk is batshit idiocy. ... We're not talking about common-or-garden belief in some god, we're talking about a lunatic belief that says a simple identification badge is somehow the mark of the antichrist. ... But no, the lanyard alone was the mark of the beast. Batshit. ... As far as I know, every Christian Bible contains the following: quote:
He (AntiChrist) also forced everyone, small and great ... to receive a mark... which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. ... (Revelation 13:16-17 extracted - NIV)
Calling someone's understanding (or misunderstanding) of part of the Scriptures that are held in highest regard by one of the large religions on the planet as "batshit idiocy" or "lunatic" itself comes dangerously close to bigotry (one intolerantly devoted to his own opinion, church, or party). If one is a Christian, they may often differ with others on what exactly that passage means or how literally it is to be taken, but if they identify themselves as "Christian", they are obliged to believe the passage does contain truth. In any event, why the need for derogatory and insulting terminology to describe somebody else's sincerely-held religious beliefs? I don't happen to agree with the girl's interpretation of this ID badge (or the lanyard) as 'marks of the beast' per Scripture, but isn't it sufficient to simply state that? If discourse cannot remain respectful, is it any wonder that violence breaks out so commonly these days?
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kudos:1 | reply to Duramax08
said by Duramax08:Remember these are kids that should be in school. the only reason they are testing this out is because they were losing state funding from kids skipping class. Since the RFID tags, students arent skipping school that much. I imagine that students are skipping just as much, if not more, except now a missing body isn't being noted by a teacher, but rather a badge that isn't necessarily attached to the body it is assigned to. |
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united state | reply to Blackbird
Well said Blackbird! |
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San Antonio, TX | reply to Xioden
im pretty sure they are taking attendance the ol fashion way...
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