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Zach 58
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USB Charger Receptacle

Awhile back there was a topic about Cooper USB charger receptacles and their 700ma charging limitation. Today, I found the Hubbell version the local supply house. The Hubbell version supplies 3.0A @ 5VDC to two USB ports and also provides two 5-15 TR receptacles where as the Cooper version has only one 5-15R on it's face. They are available in all of the standard colors and are cost competitive, at least locally, with Cooper.

»ecatalog.hubbell-wiring.com/pres···B003.pdf
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Edit: Typo

sk1939
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I was wondering when Hubbell would come out with a version.



cdru
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reply to Zach 58
Now when you have to use a wall wart, you not only can't use the other outlet, but you cover up two high current USB outlets as well.


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reply to Zach 58
Check out the FastMac version. I've got 2 of them and love them.

»store.fastmac.com/product_info.p···s_id=458

They only output 2.1A on USB, though.



cdru
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The Hubble version appears to use standard Decora outlet plates so is compatible with multi-gang wall plates. The fastmac looks to have a proprietary plate unless you're really good with a Dremel.



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reply to Zach 58
Where do people put these anyway?
Not saying I can't imagine where, I can guess near the beds next to the night stand, on a kitchen counter receptacle, but these are pretty limited locations.

I just buy a bunch of USB wall warts, most of them time, where I end up plugging it has already a ton of other devices (hence a power strip is needed).

Nifty product though, maybe one day I'll have a place for it. Ideally it would be next to my night stand, but I already need a power strip there



nunya
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In my kitchen.


robbin
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I have one of the Power2U units installed on the kitchen island. Hardly use anything else anymore. One problem is these are large devices. In my case, even though the electrical box was sized properly according to spec it was very difficult to wire it. Luckily the location I put it was the end of a run with only one romex. Looks like the Hubble is about the same size from looking at the specs. Hubble also has only one set of screws. End result, 16 cu in box is really tight and don't think it would work with two romex in the box. IMO, in many cases the elec box will need to be replaced with an extra deep one.



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I learned a long time ago that 20 cu in boxes have to be the new normal. For me, it's worth the extra nickel not to have to fight everything in. Of course, GFCI's get 22 cu in boxes.
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said by nunya:

I learned a long time ago that 20 cu in boxes have to be the new normal. For me, it's worth the extra nickel not to have to fight everything in. Of course, GFCI's get 22 cu in boxes.

I tried to fit one of those in a construction original box.


I got angry.

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said by alkizmo:

said by nunya:

I learned a long time ago that 20 cu in boxes have to be the new normal. For me, it's worth the extra nickel not to have to fight everything in. Of course, GFCI's get 22 cu in boxes.

I tried to fit one of those in a construction original box.

Good luck with that.

said by alkizmo:

I got angry.

I bet. It's even better when you have lathe-plaster walls.

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reply to nunya

said by nunya:

I learned a long time ago that 20 cu in boxes have to be the new normal. For me, it's worth the extra nickel not to have to fight everything in. Of course, GFCI's get 22 cu in boxes.

My warning was directed to those who still have the old normal and read the specs of the device, measure their box and go "great it will fit" only to find out after ordering one that there is no way without replacing the box. I agree with you, if I'm installing a new box it is going to be big.

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said by alkizmo:

Where do people put these anyway?

For me, I put it behind the dresser in my bedroom. At night, I come home, plug the work and personal cell phones into the cables laying on the dresser and forget about them until it's time to leave the house again.

makaze
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said by ke4pym:

said by alkizmo:

Where do people put these anyway?

For me, I put it behind the dresser in my bedroom. At night, I come home, plug the work and personal cell phones into the cables laying on the dresser and forget about them until it's time to leave the house again.

I'm gonna be installing 2 of these in my bedroom soon, no more hunting for a usb to ac adapter, just the cables when charging my phones.


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said by makaze:

I'm gonna be installing 2 of these in my bedroom soon, no more hunting for a usb to ac adapter, just the cables when charging my phones.

You'll be hunting the cables then

I just buy a bunch of USB chargers with an equal number of cables and leave them in key locations. It's less permanent if I change my habits.

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said by alkizmo:

said by makaze:

I'm gonna be installing 2 of these in my bedroom soon, no more hunting for a usb to ac adapter, just the cables when charging my phones.

You'll be hunting the cables then

I just buy a bunch of USB chargers with an equal number of cables and leave them in key locations. It's less permanent if I change my habits.

This hasn't been an issue for me. I put a sticky zip tie on the back of the dresser to keep them from falling behind it.

Now, this is for cell phones only. I don't have any other USB based devices that need charging. Could see it as an issue if I had an iPad or some such. But I don't.


pike
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reply to Zach 58
Thanks for the follow-up, and particularly for including the spec sheet. I was very curious about standby consumption and was happy to find that data.

The draw is pretty low at 0.63 Wh, but couldn't they have done better? Why not completely switch off the electronics if nothing is plugged in? Admittedly this won't have much of an impact in your typical residential installation, but it does add up. If just 10% of all US households were to install one of these receptacles, combined they would be wasting over 8 MWh continuously.

132,312,404 US housing units per US Census Bureau


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said by pike:

Thanks for the follow-up, and particularly for including the spec sheet. I was very curious about standby consumption and was happy to find that data.

The draw is pretty low at 0.63 Wh, but couldn't they have done better? Why not completely switch off the electronics if nothing is plugged in? Admittedly this won't have much of an impact in your typical residential installation, but it does add up. If just 10% of all US households were to install one of these receptacles, combined they would be wasting over 8 MWh continuously.

132,312,404 US housing units per US Census Bureau

People waste more power than that by using baseboard electric heat and incandescent lightbulbs. I would say it's rather minuscule in the greater scheme of things. Most waste is generated by industrial and commercial applications rather than residential.

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said by pike:

The draw is pretty low at 0.63 Wh, but couldn't they have done better? Why not completely switch off the electronics if nothing is plugged in?

Power2U does this

»www.amazon.com/Newer-Technology-···065I114K


billaustin
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reply to makaze
I have found that these work quite well, and are easy to move when furniture gets re-arranged.

»www.amazon.com/Belkin-Outlet-Sur···lkin+usb

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