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trparky
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reply to JigglyWiggly

Re: meanwhile at att

In most cases, 3G HSDPA+ gets the job done.

It has the same bandwidth capabilities of LTE, granted LTE has lower latency but you can deal with that. But there's another big plus that HSDPA+ has over LTE... no battery draining side effect.
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BF69
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said by trparky:

In most cases, 3G HSDPA+ gets the job done.

It has the same bandwidth capabilities of LTE, granted LTE has lower latency but you can deal with that. But there's another big plus that HSDPA+ has over LTE... no battery draining side effect.

At&t calls HSDPA+ 4G not 3G. So right there they are being deceitful.


MovieLover76

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Stop belaboring a 2 year old issue, the ITU redefined 4G to include WiMax, HSPA+ and LTE and in real world use, HSPA+ can provide speeds that are close to LTE, just look at T-mobile data speeds, and it consistently outperforms WiMax, which was the first 4G

Technically speaking none of those meet the original definition of 4G, which only LTE-advanced meets.



Metatron2008
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reply to trparky
You mean hsdpa can do 30/12 like Verizon has done here for over a year?



MovieLover76

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I switched from Verizon LTE to T-mobile HSPA+ and I usually get between 6 - 16mbps and I'm only in a HSPA+ 21 area, users in HSPA+ 42 areas frequently see speed over 20mbps.

Even in my case, in real world usage, I never notice the difference, even for the time I had the two running side by side.

The only exception might be for very large downloads, the additional speed would help you there. But I myself connect to wifi when I have a very large download, I did that even with Verizon LTE because I didn't want to waste my precious data allotment.



trparky
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Verizon 4G LTE was fast when it was first introduced in my area. I'd see speeds upwards of 15 Mbps. Now that more people are using it I barely see 6 Mbps on LTE, most of the time I see only 4 Mbps but even that's a stretch. YouTube plays video with constant buffering, I can't get through a single video without buffering at least four times during playback.

Verizon has been seriously neglecting their network in my area. Worst of it all, they don't seem to care.

Dropped calls, slow data. They don't care.
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trparky
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I'll be seriously looking at either AT&T or T-Mobile when my contract is up in mid-2013.

Does anyone know how roaming works with T-Mobile and AT&T?



MovieLover76

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roaming on AT&T in most areas is not usually needed , because of the size of their network. But in places they lack coverage you can generally roam to another GSM carrier and use is counted just like regular usage on AT&T

T-mobile roams a lot and doesn't have the comprehensive coverage AT&T does, but in some areas coverage can be very good, I use it myself. They have limits on data roaming with vary depending on your plan. Much of T-mobile's roaming is 2G only or throttled to 2G speeds.



trparky
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Does anyone have any accurate coverage maps for Cleveland, Ohio?



MovieLover76

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Accurate coverage maps? do they exist ? no coverage map is completely accurate

The site root metrics has fairly good crowd sourced coverage , signal and data speed maps. They aren't 100% but they can give you an idea.

The carrier coverage maps , while far from perfect will give you an idea.


BiggA

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reply to MovieLover76
That's all good and dandy if you, say, roll out HSPA+42, not HSPA+14.4 like AT&T uses...



tiger72
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said by Metatron2008:

You mean hsdpa can do 30/12 like Verizon has done here for over a year?

Maybe not 12 up, but i've certainly seen 28/5 with 48ms pings on T-Mobile's HSPA+


Metatron2008
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You've seen? I've seen 60/20. 30/12 is the USUAL for lte.

Now, I have seen it at 12/4 and even 4/1, but those are really rare here..



tiger72
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said by Metatron2008:

You've seen? I've seen 60/20. 30/12 is the USUAL for lte.

Now, I have seen it at 12/4 and even 4/1, but those are really rare here..

30/12 isn't the usual everywhere either. In fact, according to most reports over at howardforums (the largest forum dedicated to those interested in cell networks) - in most urban areas Verizon's LTE network has dropped right into their stated goals of 5-12mbps.
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