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max pl

join:2009-03-22
Hyde Park, NY
reply to Bones13

Re: [Internet] [OOL] Problem with xbox live for about 4 months

okay, so my suggestion would be to definitely try out another headset just to completely eliminate that as the issue.

and is your NAT on the xbox open, moderate, or closed?

this definitely doesnt seem like an xbox live or isp issue, but isolated to something within your setup.


jcondon

join:2000-05-27
Fishkill, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

I play COD BO2 a decent amount online and know a bunch of other people who do. We all see moderate or open and it changes session to session. In general I don't have lag issues. But they certainly do come up from time to time. I am using the Actiontech MI424 rev F that Verizon FIOS provided. Below is the ports I have forward. Some are for live specifically and some COD sorry I didn't comment which are which since the OP needs both it doesn't matter. I think also port 53 (DNS) should be forwarded but I don't have that setup since my previous router was set to do OpenDNS DNS Crypt and all my DNS traffic was going to them regardless.

Anyway.

XBox360
192.168.15.4
Destination Ports 3478
TCP Any -> 3478
UDP Any -> 3478 All Broadband Devices Active

XBox360
192.168.15.4
Destination Ports 4379-4380
TCP Any -> 4379-4380
UDP Any -> 4379-4380 All Broadband Devices Active

XBox360
192.168.15.4
Destination Ports 27000-27050
TCP Any -> 27000-27050
UDP Any -> 27000-27050 All Broadband Devices Active

XBox360
192.168.15.4
Destination Ports 88
UDP Any -> 88 All Broadband Devices Active



Bones13

@optonline.net
reply to max pl

That sounds good, rather have it be that than something from either of the two. For NAT, it's always been open for me. I'll see if i can try another headset sometime over the weekend. How about the in game delay issues?



MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to jcondon

You don't need to forward port 53. Your devices make OUTGOING connections TO port 53. Virtually all consumer routers do not restrict outgoing connections.
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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Bones13

What xbox rep said about your profile "broken key" is pretty bs. If some of that info is incomplete, it will either work just fine because that info is optional or it won't work at all because that info is mandatory.

It's possible that if you have a wrong country or state that maybe xbox live connects you to less optimal servers. But beyond that I don't know enough about xbox live's service to know if there's something behind the scenes that could affect how your account connects.

Consider signing up for »www.testmyisp.com/ If you are selected, they will send you a free router does pretty extensive network testing and monitoring and at any time you can see the results. Among those tests are network jitter and packetloss. If there are problems if your connection, this router will tell you.

Also consider trying some of the tools at »measurementlab.net/measurement-lab-tools
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jcondon

join:2000-05-27
Fishkill, NY
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
reply to MxxCon

said by MxxCon:

You don't need to forward port 53. Your devices make OUTGOING connections TO port 53. Virtually all consumer routers do not restrict outgoing connections.

I think they want to be able to directly connect to their DNS server. I was forcing everything to OpenDNS for like a year and had no real issues. Now my XBox360 can make DNS requests to whatever DNS server MS wants. Port 80 would also be open on most networks. Unless some sort of proxy filter was in place.

»support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live···box-live

»portforward.com/english/routers/···s_II.htm

Anyway this doesn't sound like the OPs issue anyway.


Bones13

@optonline.net
reply to MxxCon

Ok im really pissed off now.... I had friends over and we decided we where gonna goof around on chatroullete. This is that i get when we try and use it.



MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY

I don't know what you got, but if it's a penis, I'm not surprised.
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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to jcondon

said by jcondon:

I think they want to be able to directly connect to their DNS server. I was forcing everything to OpenDNS for like a year and had no real issues. Now my XBox360 can make DNS requests to whatever DNS server MS wants. Port 80 would also be open on most networks. Unless some sort of proxy filter was in place.

»support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live···box-live

wow...I'm surprised that Microsoft is giving out such super wrong instructions. Why the hell would they want you to allow INCOMING connections to your xbox on DNS and HTTP ports?! xbox does not run DNS or HTTP servers! You being able to talk to THEIR SERVICES does not require you allowing INCOMING connections to these ports. Whoever wrote those instructions does not understand the very basics of networking! Wow.

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Bones13

@optonline.net
reply to MxxCon

Oh, i guess it never posted, but here is what i got.

2013-01-11 23:27:54 - Connection with CR server has failed. Reconnecting. If this problem persists, make sure your setup allows connection to TCP ports 81 and 80.

This message came up about 5 times and we never had been let on...



Anorexorcist
Premium
join:2005-08-21
Stamford, CT
reply to MxxCon

am I missing something...but where does MS specifically state these "super wrong instructions"?


jcondon

join:2000-05-27
Fishkill, NY
reply to Bones13

Port 81 for XBox Live? NHL2013 or COD?

I have never opened up 81 for Live or COD.


cablewizzard

join:2009-06-14
Hicksville, NY
kudos:1
reply to jcondon

said by jcondon:

»support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live···box-live

Anyway this doesn't sound like the OPs issue anyway.

The page is imprecise in the sense that it doesn't explicitly state that traffic to these ports must be working for OUTBOUND connections to the Internet, and NOT inbound forwarded ports - the fact that the page mentions router port forwarding makes this even worse, so yes: no kudos to Microsoft for this one, the page sucks.

XBL wouldn't work in probably 98% of all cases if XBOX-Live truly required direct INBOUND access to ports 53 and 80 to the XBOX itself. Not a network administrator (the one at school/work they mention on the page in such scholarly, pass-the-blame manner) in the world is going to make that happen, the majority of all end-user devices in the world are behind NAT, or even behind double-NAT (that's a particular troublesome scenario for XBOX).

The OP has stated multiple times that he has bypassed his router by hooking up his XBOX directly to the cable modem - so none of the router-centric discussions here are relevant, and all speculation about them should stop.

OP: you'll need more information, and nothing is easy from this point forward: the only way is to sniff the traffic between your XBOX and the rest of the network. Hook up a legacy ethernet hub (hard to find, even borrow these days) between your XBOX and the rest of the network (home router, or if bypassed, the cable modem), and put a PC/laptop with Wireshark on one of the other ports.
Record traffic. Analyze where the majority of the traffic is going (XBL gaming server? PS3 traffic is very much peer-to-peer) , and whether that traffic dies (becomes one-way, with your XBOX sending, but not getting anything back, or only getting traffic back with delays) when you experience your latency issues.

Post the XBL gaming server IPs here, if you will, so other people can take a look how much latency or reachability issues exist with them.


Pickle

@oneeighty.com

If your problem is with primarily with Black Ops 2 then you may actually suffer from having too good of a connection. BO2 uses something call lag compensation in an effort to level the playing field in multiplayer matches which basically means they introduce artificial lag to the better connections so the lesser connections can be competitive. This isn't something new to this title but they made some changes their match making process on this game and it appears that they are penalizing the better connections too much. I suggest you google "Black Ops 2 Lag Compensation" to get a better understanding of the issues. You'll come accross tons of different fixes some of which may help a little bit and some that won't. Here's a few that helped me.

Set your in game search preferences to "Best"

If you play on an HDTV look for a setting called "Game Mode" or something similiar as the HD Motion Smoothing will add some lag at your tv end.

If you are going to be connect to a Router set you port forwarding up for Black ops 2 and for xbox live. »portforward.com/english/routers/···s_II.htm
»portforward.com/english/routers/···_360.htm

Good Luck!



j sizzle

@optonline.net

what model tv are you using it could be input lag or the response time of the tv is high. couple be the turtle beach headset i know plenty of people with higher models than you that change the chat cables often.

could be you are just bad at cod. nhl always plays like shit like most ea sports games.