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jaberi
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2013-Jan-10 8:26 pm
B.C. gambling addicts get go ahead to sue lotteryThe B.C. Lottery Corp.'s TV ads promoting gambling products used to end with the cautionary tag "Know your limit, play within it." But of course a percentage of gamblers don't know their limits, so sterner measures are needed. Now the Crown-owned gaming monopoly is facing a class-action lawsuit launched by two problem gamblers who say the BCLC owes them thousands of dollars in winnings, according to The Canadian Press. » ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ ··· 648.html |
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jaberi
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2013-Jan-10 8:29 pm
this will be interesting lawsuit, curious who the judge will side with...will it be pay-up or shut up |
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dirtyjeffer0Posers don't use avatars. Premium Member join:2002-02-21 London, ON |
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i'm torn on this...if they won, she should get the money, however, since they shouldn't be there, there shouldn't be any winnings...taking away any chance of winning any money would hopefully be enough of a deterrent (since there is no point in playing then).
i think in the end, i side with BCLC...they are banned from playing, therefore, banned from winning...cheating the system to sneak in and play doesn't remove their being banned. |
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DKSDamn Kidney Stones
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to jaberi
And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? |
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koiraHey Siri Walk Me Premium Member join:2004-02-16 |
koira
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2013-Jan-10 9:03 pm
said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? well on the grand scale casinos have become a cash cow. For example Toronto is looking at funding subway expansion thru casino profit. So its become a means of voluntary taxation . Is it good maybe in certain circumstances. But clearly not in the case of this topic. Casinos are popping up like mushrooms in springtime. |
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said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? Casinos promoted and funded, run by Government is problem. This is the reason Government should not be in business of gambling and selling liquor. Gambling, booze and prostitute are going to exists as long as human race exists. So does the addicts. Be it drug, booze or anything else. |
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koiraHey Siri Walk Me Premium Member join:2004-02-16 |
koira
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2013-Jan-10 9:42 pm
said by loosedobbs:said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? Casinos promoted and funded, run by Government is problem. This is the reason Government should not be in business of gambling and selling liquor. Gambling, booze and prostitute are going to exists as long as human race exists. So does the addicts. Be it drug, booze or anything else. so lets legalize reefer and hookers , tax them along with booze and gambling. Let people have their fun and pay voluntary taxes. |
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shaner Premium Member join:2000-10-04 Calgary, AB |
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2013-Jan-10 10:00 pm
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said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? Same reason why liquor stores are a good thing? |
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said by koira:said by loosedobbs:said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? Casinos promoted and funded, run by Government is problem. This is the reason Government should not be in business of gambling and selling liquor. Gambling, booze and prostitute are going to exists as long as human race exists. So does the addicts. Be it drug, booze or anything else. so lets legalize reefer and hookers , tax them along with booze and gambling. Let people have their fun and pay voluntary taxes. Some people would like that. I want Government out of this business. Whether we legalize or not people will pay for hookers and drugs. These things are with us forever. And you forgot some government sold drugs and funded the arms shipment to their "Friends". Just off topic. US DEA agent paid hookers for secret service agents. |
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BonezXBasement Dweller Premium Member join:2004-04-13 Canada |
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said by loosedobbs:said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? Casinos promoted and funded, run by Government is problem. This is the reason Government should not be in business of gambling and selling liquor. Gambling, booze and prostitute are going to exists as long as human race exists. So does the addicts. Be it drug, booze or anything else. would you rather there be no controls by the evil "corps" that you seem to so adamantly despise as the scum of the earth ? personally, booze, gambling, cigarettes, and "weed" should be sold and revenue above operating costs go into the tax pool, the siphoned out through tax loopholes by people who don't even pretend to have an interest in the people. |
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koiraHey Siri Walk Me Premium Member join:2004-02-16 |
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said by loosedobbs:Some people would like that. I want Government out of this business. Whether we legalize or not people will pay for hookers and drugs. These things are with us forever. And you forgot some government sold drugs and funded the arms shipment to their "Friends".
Just off topic. US DEA agent paid hookers for secret service agents. yes sir, depends on who you view as should be taking the profits and how those profits are distributed. Government, mafia, bikers , terrorists etc, where does the money go? |
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FFH5 Premium Member join:2002-03-03 Tavistock NJ |
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2013-Jan-11 12:24 am
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said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? How about because if it wasn't a legal casino, these gambling addicts would be lying in a hospital with broken kneecaps instead of suing in court. |
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donoreo Premium Member join:2002-05-30 North York, ON |
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How is the government's fault that these people are defective? |
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Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON |
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2013-Jan-11 9:30 am
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said by koira:so lets legalize reefer and hookers The later will happen a lot sooner than anyone realizes. |
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El QuintronCancel Culture Ambassador Premium Member join:2008-04-28 Tronna |
said by Gone:said by koira:so lets legalize reefer and hookers The later will happen a lot sooner than anyone realizes. Can't happen soon enough really. The sooner our laws get in tune with what's really going on, the better it's going to be for everyone. It will both create taxation revenue, and reduce taxation expeditures in one fell swoop. I don't know why it hasn't happened yet (well I do, but that's another discussion altogether.) |
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said by Gone:said by koira:so lets legalize reefer and hookers The later will happen a lot sooner than anyone realizes. It's pretty much already the case. About the only ones getting busted are the nasty, drug-ridden street walkers which would be illegal anyway and the mob/biker-controlled houses. Everybody else pretty much has free reign. |
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said by koira:so lets legalize reefer and hookers , tax them along with booze and gambling. Let people have their fun and pay voluntary taxes. That's the future in my opinion. It's inevitable. It would reduce crimerate and increase income through taxation a lot. The black market would still exist (it always will) but at least the nation would be profiting from it. |
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Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON |
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said by IamGimli:It's pretty much already the case. About the only ones getting busted are the nasty, drug-ridden street walkers which would be illegal anyway and the mob/biker-controlled houses. Everybody else pretty much has free reign. ... but it's not legal, which means it's neither regulated nor taxed. Once it is formally made legal, that process will start. In fact, there's stuff going on in the Town of Fort Erie right now preparing for the eventual legal regulation and taxation that will occur. Gotta replace all the lost municipal tax revenue somehow, I guess. |
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J E F F4Whatta Ya Think About Dat? Premium Member join:2004-04-01 Kitchener, ON |
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said by DKS:And can anyone explain to me why casinos, with problems like this, are a good thing? Taxation on the stupid, or tax everyone. Choose one. |
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I see no issues with refunding money spent on tickets to these problem gamblers, in return for banning them from ever receiving winnings. It's fictional money anyway. Who cares. |
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TLS2000 Premium Member join:2004-02-24 Elmsdale, NS |
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I side with the lottery corporation here. These people wanted to be excluded, and as such, they are. The ONLY remedy they should be offered is a refund on the money they've spent since they were excluded. |
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I helped someone get voluntarily self-excluded from a local casino. They scare the crap out of you about ever stepping foot in the building again (automatic tresspass charge). However a few months later this person was able to walk back in, request to be unexcluded and after a day or so after a cooling period was able to gamble again. |
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Donate the winnings to a charity of the gamblers choice, but since they self excluded they should have access to none of it. |
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jaberi
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2013-Jan-12 5:03 am
if they got in then someone in the casino was not doing their job. |
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2013-Jan-12 2:53 pm
said by jaberi:if they got in then someone in the casino was not doing their job. That's unreasonable. Casino's get thousands of visitors a day and have self exclusion lists of thousands of people. It's impossible to catch every single self exclusion that's sneaking back in. |
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said by graniterock:I helped someone get voluntarily self-excluded from a local casino. They scare the crap out of you about ever stepping foot in the building again (automatic tresspass charge). However a few months later this person was able to walk back in, request to be unexcluded and after a day or so after a cooling period was able to gamble again. I know the OLG casinos have a minimum period of six months after which you must apply to have permission to come back in. Once the request is made in writing, there's STILL a period of 30 days that you can't come in. If your time period for self exclusion is up, you still have to apply to go back. |
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