PC Hardware → Haswell iGPU will equal GT 650M performance

»techreport.com/news/2418 ··· -gt-650m

Good news for everyday users--dedicated GPUs are becoming less necessary.

Nice to see Intel is not slacking off, and trying to do more with their gpu. This will be good for casual gamers who won't run really run intensive stuff, and give some healthier competition for Nvidia, and AMD. Might have to tell my friend to hold off on building the new system just for the new onboard gpu as the price tag for the 7850 will look far less appealing in performance for the price. So will all those budget cards out there like the lower 6xx nvidia models which already barely beat the performance of the onboard intel gpu.

This is really cool. Sure for me it wont be of any use, but my brother has a 650m so that may be good for him. Not a gaming gpu by any means but for multiple monitors and stuff that doesn't need a big gpu, or even light/casual/old gaming its perfect.

EDIT: aren't 650ms about the same as 560ms, and 550tis?

This is impressive IMO,.....

Its an informal comparison but still impressive nonetheless.

The 650M being a mobile part likely implemented in an MXM form factor in laptops, All-In-Ones and the like defines the intended segment of the market along with AMD /ATI competing offerings.

The significance here is the PC market shifting to mobile and Intel being poised to eat nVidia /AMD/ ATI market share in such configurations.

Still no dedicated RAM

this could slow down the system overall

For how cheap the system memory is you can't really complain.

iGPU performance will likely scale near linearly with ram speed, as is already the case with AMD's APUs. With the prices what they are get 8Gb of DDR3 2133, DDR3 is spec'd as high as 2800 these days.

While Intel is making great strides in their integrated graphics, this is still an Intel controlled demo.Source: »www.anandtech.com/show/6 ··· -gt-650m

These CPUs fall flat on their face when running games with PhysX enabled.

I tried setting my 3570k to handle all the PhysX in Borderlands 2, and I got terrible performace and frame rates.

If PhysX is enabled, I don't think PhysX games do very well without dedicated hardware. I was unaware the Intel iGPU was supported in this capacity.

You might be right. It's probably the CPU portion that handles it.

Either way, games with PhysX absolutely need a dedicated GPU.

I couldn't imagine how bad it would have run if I was using the onboard HD4000 graphics.

Yep, PhysX falls back to the CPU if no supported GPU is present. It's in nVidia's best interests to have it run best on their hardware, so I doubt things will get better in the future with CPU-driven PhysX.