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Re: Is this some kind of joke? said by The Limit:Yea, about those "lost" profits. Please provide some evidence of that, otherwise it's all bologna.
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·Verizon FiOS
| reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926:In that BPON circumstance, pirates would only have to be using 20Mbps simultaneously for saturation. What to do when pirates are streaming content to multiple TV's in the house? What to do when theyre DL'ing/streaming blu-ray quality bit-rates? Cmon.
Pirates are bad for not only the entertainment industry, but the MSO's as well. "Pirates spend more money on media.. bla bla bla" Yea right. They have so much money they feel the need to STEAL , yea, i said it. 
Not sure if you follow FIOS closely but BPON is yesterday's news. There are no new BPON installations since 2009-2010 and current BPON networks are continuously being upgraded if capacity on BPON is reaching its limit. |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926:In that BPON circumstance, pirates would only have to be using 20Mbps simultaneously for saturation. What to do when pirates are streaming content to multiple TV's in the house? What to do when theyre DL'ing/streaming blu-ray quality bit-rates? Cmon.
Pirates are bad for not only the entertainment industry, but the MSO's as well. "Pirates spend more money on media.. bla bla bla" Yea right. They have so much money they feel the need to STEAL , yea, i said it.
Terrible example is terrible.
does streaming legal services at the same rate somehow make the saturation go away? Of course it doesnt.
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 XiodenPremium
join:2008-06-10
Monticello, NY
kudos:1 | reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926:Wrong, not only does piracy cause lost TV revenue for Verizon, but those that STEAL obscene amounts of daily data puts them at risk for oversubscription of their CO PON cards, causing slowdowns for everyone.
BPON ~622 Mbps shared by 32 pirates. If all had a 50Mbps plan, well, you do the math.
Sounds to me like they need to upgrade their infrastructure then if it often isn't able to actually provide full service to all subscribers in that area. |
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 The LimitPremium
join:2007-09-25
Greensboro, NC
kudos:2 | reply to ITALIAN926
Oh I see. No hard evidence just OMG THIS GUY I KNOW DOES THIS argument.
Burden of proof is on you. Try again. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Skippy25
said by Skippy25:So what you are implying is that people that pirate do so to avoid not paying to watch something. Can you provide proof that those same people would pay to watch the same stuff if it were 100% impossible to get through other means thus making it erode their TV revenues? So because one refuses to pay for something they are entitled to it anyways? It doesn't matter if no one is losing a dime. If you are supposed to pay for something and you don't want to then you are not entitled to it. If I don't want to pay $8 to see a movie that does not give me a right to sneak into the theater. |
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| reply to serge87
Nah, I dont follow tech news at all. I used an example of BPON to use actual numbers , the concept applies to ANY architecture, whether its GPON, XPON, DSL or cable. |
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1 edit | reply to The Limit
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Oh I see. No hard evidence just OMG THIS GUY I KNOW DOES THIS argument.
Burden of proof is on you. Try again.
WTF are you talking about? Pirating has caused the cable industry to lose about $50 a month (for basic) due to my UNCLE, and his lack of morals. What kind of evidence would you like, for me to turn him in and get a police report? ONE MAN out of MILLIONS COPYRIGHT INFRINGERS having an impact on the MSO's and entertainment industry. Have you even an ounce of common sense? Even if he was the ONLY ONE DOING IT, ITS STILL EVIDENCE OF LOST REVENUE. |
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·Verizon FiOS
| reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926:Nah, I dont follow tech news at all. I used an example of BPON to use actual numbers , the concept applies to ANY architecture, whether its GPON, XPON, DSL or cable.
Sorry, but XGPON would NOT be saturated as all 32 users wouldn't be able to max out even if they all subscribed to the 300mb plan and cranked it 100% simultaneously. |
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| Really? And all of a sudden file size has limit. Interesting. XPON wouldnt be limited to 300 Mbps anyway.
Dont you think that stolen files get larger as pipes grow? |
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| reply to cdru
*SUPER MEGA LIKE* lol... You hit the nail on the head! |
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| reply to ITALIAN926
Did he raise his internet speed? I pirate all the time.. but I also spend about $3000 a year on video games and movies... I go to the movie theater often... I also have a TV provider... but as I say.. I pirate all the time... |
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| reply to BF69
If I download a movie that I had no intention of watching if I hadn't downloaded it... was it really a lost sale? |
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| reply to Trencher
Re: Is this some kind of joke? Wow, I spend about $5000 a year in gasoline, thanks for telling me that logically I should be able to fill up and run off without paying; on occasion. I'll use your logic as my defense when I get caught. |
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·Verizon FiOS
| reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926:Really? And all of a sudden file size has limit. Interesting. XPON wouldnt be limited to 300 Mbps anyway.
Dont you think that stolen files get larger as pipes grow?
I am not sure I understand what you mean by file size(?)
With XGPON(or 10G-PON) at the current Quantum speed plan levels released just a few months ago, if all 32 users subscribed to the 300Mbps plan it would still leave 640Mbps of unallocated download bandwidth. At 64 users, it would allocate 160Mbps per user if split equally.
However, you are right that there probably will be higher speed plans if XGPON is implemented. Verizon's CEO just recently stated a possible 1Gbps in the works for the future. On my 300Mbps plan, I currently use 60-100 Terabytes per month and would greatly benefit from a 1Gbps line. Thankfully all my use is 100% legal so this anti-piracy program will not affect me. |
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3 edits | As the internet world is supplied with bigger pipes, larger file sizes for legit and stolen video will get larger. This includes the video offerings for the MSO's as well to eventually provide 1080p and beyond (for 4k , 8k HDTV's) via IPTV. So I have no idea what kind of file sizes are traded on torrents and such, but I highly doubt its a fully uncompressed Blu-Ray movie.
60-100 Terabytes? WTF? lol
My DVR has a 1 TB hard drive with 65 hours of 1080i HD video , and is HALF full. 60-100 TB's? I just cant comprehend. |
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| said by ITALIAN926:As the internet world is supplied with bigger pipes, larger file sizes for legit and stolen video will get larger. This includes the video offerings for the MSO's as well to eventually provide 1080p and beyond (for 4k , 8k HDTV's) via IPTV. So I have no idea what kind of file sizes are traded on torrents and such, but I highly doubt its a fully uncompressed Blu-Ray movie.
60-100 Terabytes? WTF? lol
My DVR has a 1 TB hard drive with 65 hours of 1080i HD video , and is HALF full. 60-100 TB's? I just cant comprehend.
I get that reaction a lot But I wouldn't be paying $220/month if I wasn't going to use it to its potential. It would be like a soccer mom buying a Ferrari for weekend grocery shopping LOL
I believe 4K resolution would take roughly 20-25Mbps, not much relatively speaking if you consider Verizon's FIOS offerings. Is there any premium TV or movie channel that even streams at true 1080p/24fps? Most are 720p60 or 1080i because the higher quality 1080p/24 stream is seen as inefficient use of limited customer bandwidth. |
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·Verizon FiOS
| reply to Xioden
said by Xioden:Sounds to me like they need to upgrade their infrastructure then if it often isn't able to actually provide full service to all subscribers in that area.
What do you call the rollout of GPON then ? |
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XiodenPremium
join:2008-06-10
Monticello, NY
kudos:1 | An upgrade that they obviously need to hurry up and actually deploy to said oversubscribed node. |
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