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rocca
Start.ca
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London, ON

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Re: TorIX Upgrade

Not quite yet, we're on the cusp of getting an appliance.

jmck
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Ottawa, ON

jmck

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oh, didn't realize you were getting an Akamai region in your datacenter. there's likely still some benefit to peer at TorIX now that you have 20GE in case your cluster ever goes down for maintenance or ever doesn't have enough capacity so it can overflow to TorIX.

right now it seems to be going through Bell Nexxia which is still really good performance, but it might just save you a few pizzas/beers down the road

rocca
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We only have 10G in TorIX but that's plenty right now.

As for the traffic taking Bell, odd. Can you PM me the target IP and traceroute?

Thanks.

jmck
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I'm using the Start DNS servers. I'm not exactly sure what the return route is, but considering you have Bell Nexxia transit I sort of assumed it was going to return through Bell (if not then it kind of sucks its going the same route as my outbound through Toronto/Chicago/Toronto).

traceroute to www.akamai.com

Tracing route to a152.dscq.akamai.net [67.69.196.18]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.106.248.129
3 15 ms 14 ms 18 ms 24.156.149.221
4 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms 69.63.249.9
5 15 ms 20 ms 25 ms v613.core1.tor1.he.net [216.66.23.5]
6 28 ms 29 ms 34 ms 10gigabitethernet7-3.core1.chi1.he.net [184.105.
213.150]
7 26 ms 27 ms 28 ms bx5-chicagodt.bell.ca [206.223.119.66]
8 44 ms 42 ms 70 ms newcore1-chicagocp_xe5-0-1_0 [64.230.186.252]
9 46 ms 44 ms 43 ms tcore4-toronto63_POS00-6-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230
.147.169]
10 44 ms 44 ms 38 ms bx4-toronto63_so-1-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.160.1
26]
11 40 ms 43 ms 42 ms 67.69.196.18

rocca
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rocca

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Ah, that's just www.akamai.com's main web site and not the actual content. The content itself is cached and peered through TorIX.

jmck
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Ottawa, ON

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oops you're right, i had pasted the wrong host :/ a1.g.akamaitech.net shows the right one.
vonSchroeder
join:2004-11-12
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Any plans to get Limelight traffic going directly through TorIX? At the moment it stays in Toronto but passes through HE as a middleman between you and TorIX.

Valve/Steam content server for example:

tracert cdn.steampowered.com
 
Tracing route to valve.vo.llnwd.net [208.111.181.254]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
 
  1     7 ms     7 ms     8 ms  10.204.100.1
  2    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  64.140.112.158
  3    18 ms    20 ms    18 ms  core1-toronto1-te3-3.net.start.ca [64.140.112.15
3]
  4    19 ms    23 ms    25 ms  v613.core1.tor1.he.net [216.66.23.5]
  5    27 ms    24 ms    34 ms  gw-llnw.torontointernetxchange.net [206.108.34.9
4]
  6    22 ms    24 ms    24 ms  ve5.fr4.yyz.llnw.net [69.28.171.142]
  7    20 ms    23 ms    19 ms  cdn-208-111-181-254.yyz.llnw.net [208.111.181.25
4]
 
Trace complete.
 

And the return from a LLNW Toronto server:

Tracing the route to IP node (108.170.xxx.xxx) from 1 to 30 hops
 
  1    12 ms   <1 ms   <1 ms gw-he.torontointernetxchange.net [206.108.34.112] 
  2     8 ms    1 ms   <1 ms start-communications.10gigabitethernet3-1.core1.tor1.he.net [216.66.23.6] 
  3     1 ms    1 ms    1 ms asr-link1-burlington1.net.start.ca [64.140.112.154] 
  4    24 ms   12 ms   13 ms 10.204.100.1 
  5    35 ms   21 ms   19 ms dhcp-108-170-xxx-xxx.cable.user.start.ca [108.170.xxx.xxx] 
 

rocca
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They are a conditional peer at TorIX and don't advertise via the route servers. We're open to peering directly with them, maybe if some of their customers asked they'd take more of an interest.

merc782
join:2012-11-19
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»proof.ovh.net/

can some one post current speed test results from start to ovh? As of now ( almost midnight) speeds from Teksavvy to ovh are pathetic, it looks like OVH torix pop is overloaded. if the speed is good from start to ovh, then it will be a big compelling reason for me to switch

rocca
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Looks like in OVH's network:

traceroute to proof.ovh.net (188.165.12.106), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 64.140.114.1 (64.140.114.1) 0.326 ms 0.421 ms 0.465 ms
2 gw-ovh.torontointernetxchange.net (206.108.34.189) 0.510 ms * *
3 * * *
4 ldn-5-6k.uk.eu (178.32.135.165) 83.159 ms * *
5 * * *
6 * * *
7 * * rbx-g1-a9.fr.eu (178.33.100.238) 782.365 ms
8 rbx-s3-6k.fr.eu (213.186.32.164) 520.480 ms * 501.159 ms
9 proof.ovh.net (188.165.12.106) 242.337 ms 443.187 ms 427.758 ms

merc782
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thanks for checking it out.
It looks like network between Amsterdam and London is overloaded

»weathermap.ovh.net/

jmck
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well that's also from france, there's a NA proof server. i was previously on TSI and there's also been issues between TSI and OVH even after the peering at Torix while OVH had a ton of capacity at Torix.

I switched to Start earlier this week and I haven't had performance issues.

rogersmogers
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Last Result:
Download Speed: 30981 kbps (3872.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1907 kbps (238.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 235 ms
6/2/2013 01:03:11

Last results :
IP Download (kb/s) Upload (kb/s) Latency (ms)
2001:470:1d::xxxx 28555 1608 267

First is my IPv4 and 2nd is my IPv6

jmck
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Here's mine on Start first with OVH in Montreal (»proof.ovh.ca) :

Download Speed: 64235 kbps (8029.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3919 kbps (489.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 21 ms
6 February, 2013 12:59:13 PM EST

Here's with OVH in Europe (»proof.ovh.net) :

Download Speed: 11764 kbps (1470.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3585 kbps (448.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 206 ms
6 February, 2013 12:59:42 PM EST

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Obviously speedboost kicked in a bit for the Montreal proof server (it would actually be higher but my WRT54GS can't actually go faster than ~60-65Mbit/sec). The test was also done at 1pm which is getting near Europe peak but not NA. As I mentioned I was also previously on TSI until last week and TSI had serious speed issues even at OVH in Montreal.

Lastly you should consider moving your OVH server to the Montreal location if you can, I've had one for a few months and it's been great (»www.ovh.com/ca/en/).
jmck

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I did a few tests on two of my servers:

wget -O /dev/null http://proof.ovh.net/files/100Mio.dat
 

One in NYC off 100mbit HE.net and the other in Montreal at OVH and both were able to get ~80-90Mbit/sec off the Euro OVH test file. Could you post a traceroute or mtr from your server to 24.53.250.37?

A traceroute or mtr to my NYC server would be good too to see the difference with the path (rakis.net).