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jaberi
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2013-Jan-12 4:53 am
Nova Scotia taxpayers forced to subsidize Tim Hortons lossesQuestion: How do you lose money operating a Tim Hortons franchise? Answer: Let the government operate it. CTV News has learned that taxpayers in Nova Scotia are covering the losses for four Tim Hortons' locations at the Queen Elizabeth II Health Sciences Centre to the tune of $1.4 million. » ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ ··· 381.html |
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jaberi
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2013-Jan-12 5:00 am
what's the real deal here, is it the overpaying of employees, or do they really not sell enough?
i bet some canteen guy can make ends meet if tim's was to shut down.... |
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2013-Jan-12 8:12 am
It's because the "tim hortons" employees are government union employees, and making double or tripple what a normal tim hortons employee makes plus full benefits. It's the same thing at the hospitals back home, and they had a uproar about it when it became public. |
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Same old song, it just seems that NS management is much more incompetent. » news.nationalpost.com/20 ··· -a-year/ |
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said by BGB:It's because the "tim hortons" employees are government union employees, and making double or tripple what a normal tim hortons employee makes plus full benefits. It's the same thing at the hospitals back home, and they had a uproar about it when it became public.
that would be correct, except they don't make double-triple working at the tims. the second part of it, is that tims itself is not out any money, they don't provide anything but the "goods" that supply it and the name, other then that the company has no involvement. also they have a "healty food initiative" going on, which means the biggest sellers have been removed(doughnuts, timbits, ect). |
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This was one of the arguments used when the NS government sold Nova Scotia Power Corp to private interests... I suppose it could be used as a reason for the Feds to sell the CBC as well... Tim Hortons in Newfoundland hospitals is not doing much better... » news.nationalpost.com/20 ··· critics/ |
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said by BonezX:also they have a "healty food initiative" going on, which means the biggest sellers have been removed(doughnuts, timbits, ect).
This policy kind of bugs me. People who are in a hospital generally aren't there to have a good time. You're ailed up with something or, worst case, on your deathbed. If they want a donut or some other unhealthy treat, why deny them the pleasure? |
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2013-Jan-13 1:21 pm
said by mr weather:said by BonezX:also they have a "healty food initiative" going on, which means the biggest sellers have been removed(doughnuts, timbits, ect).
This policy kind of bugs me. People who are in a hospital generally aren't there to have a good time. You're ailed up with something or, worst case, on your deathbed. If they want a donut or some other unhealthy treat, why deny them the pleasure? same here... i mean i only go there for a dozen of donuts once in a while so if they remove that i have no reason to go... even if it's not often.. |
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Tim Horton's is a job for teenagers and early 20-somethings. Employ them and pay accordingly. Unions at a coffee shop has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, it isn't meant to be a career. |
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said by dragonfly5:Tim Horton's is a job for teenagers and early 20-somethings. Employ them and pay accordingly. Unions at a coffee shop has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, it isn't meant to be a career.
they aren't timhortons employees, they are hospital employees that work in the kitchen/cafeteria, Tims just provides the goods to the sites(sale items), they don't manage or pay any of the employees. |
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That's nuts... |
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BonezXBasement Dweller
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i don't get it, do they have to be hospital employees?....and why are the taxpayers going along with this?....it's ludicrous, to be subsidizing some commerce that is not making money...why can't there be a solution to this? |
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BonezXBasement Dweller
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2013-Jan-14 7:54 am
they do, due to the cafeteria staff being more or less hired by the hospital, that's more or less the rules.
Imagine the shit show if they tried to get rid of all the staff and replace them with lower paid workers ? |
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Why do they even need it to be a Tim's? What's wrong with just a plain cafeteria? |
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BonezXBasement Dweller
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said by ekster:Why do they even need it to be a Tim's? What's wrong with just a plain cafeteria?
branding, people want tims, not coffee, simple as that. Also that would solve nothing, still have people working behind the counter slinging coffee, as i said, tims only provides products, everything else is hospital run. |
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said by dragonfly5:Tim Horton's is a job for teenagers and early 20-somethings. Employ them and pay accordingly. Unions at a coffee shop has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, it isn't meant to be a career.
Guess you haven't been in a timmies lately, not many teens, 20 somethings working there. |
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Yes, I'm sure the hospital owns the franchise. |
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said by elwoodblues:Yes, I'm sure the hospital owns the franchise.
slightly more complicated, but i can't elaborate more then that. |
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said by ekster:Why do they even need it to be a Tim's? What's wrong with just a plain cafeteria?
The costs would be the same in either case. Tims or cafeteria, those unionised workers are still going to be paid the same. The hospital probably opened a Tims for a couple of good reasons. 1. Healthy customers staying with loved ones asked for a Tims onsite so that they didn't have to stray far for their fix. 2. The hospital was probably also responding to the number of trips off the hospital campus and wanted to keep loved ones close by. 3. The staff probably requested a Tims so they could get their fix too and not have to leave campus. Finally, is there a hospital in Canada which posts a profit? I'll bet even most onsite hospital parking facilities don't generate a profit. |
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