Topic '[Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL' in forum 'Bell Canada' - dslreports.com

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:59:40 EDT

Shipwreck posted : LMAO@ Ruggs and urbang33k.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:47:17 EDT

urbang33k posted :

said by ruggs:

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Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:38:13 EDT

ruggs posted : Congratulations! You can now become a BTS Tech

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:38:00 EDT

Shipwreck posted : Well, yesterday I removed the cut length of black wiring (shown connected in the box), wired up my red and greens and ran the wiring to the house. Didn't install a jack, just wired straight to a male connector.
Modem was received today and service activated today. Connected the modem and we're up and running gang busters!!!

Thanks a million all!!!

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:15:18 EDT

anon posted :

said by stickitout :

Anonymuss@rogers.com your wrong, if the op is a bell customer he will not be charged for any inside wiring, the wiring is part of the order no charge for running inside wire, now if he gets a 3rd party isp the bell tech will just test it at the NID and have a nice day.

Desktop MOP
Bell Internet - Full Desktop Installation (aka HS orders)
Step 6
Install inside Wire and Jacks if requested/required by customer.
Quote SLIW charges to customer.
If the technician does not have an associated “IN” Ticket in FWFM, contact ASK SLIW to provide customer billing information.

Now why does it state to quote charges to the customer if there is no charge? Seems a bit odd.......

The demarc jack is in the NID. Anything else is ISW.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:51:46 EDT

kovy posted :

said by noemails :

i beleive its referred to as a circuit number and it is quite different from an actual phone number. no actual phone number is associated with a dry loop setup you use a circuit number

No, it's a phone number.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:45:00 EDT

coaxguy posted :

said by Shipwreck:

Aaaah, cool. Well thank you. Gonna be wiring it up today.

Thanks to all for your assistance.

Before you do any wiring, I would wait for the DSL to be activated, as the primary pair coming from the buried line in the NID may be for other tenant in the duplex. The 2nd or 3rd pair in that buried drop may be used for you.

Better yet if your going to be doing the wiring, I would just run the riser from your part of the house to the NID and leave a note for the tech attached to it saying "riser for 3rd party DSL activation..."

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:29:58 EDT

Shipwreck posted : Aaaah, cool. Well thank you. Gonna be wiring it up today.

Thanks to all for your assistance.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:22:37 EDT

anon posted : i beleive its referred to as a circuit number and it is quite different from an actual phone number. no actual phone number is associated with a dry loop setup you use a circuit number

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 01:20:01 EDT

anon posted : Anonymuss@rogers.com your wrong, if the op is a bell customer he will not be charged for any inside wiring, the wiring is part of the order no charge for running inside wire, now if he gets a 3rd party isp the bell tech will just test it at the NID and have a nice day.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:16:37 EDT

anon posted : Their is dial tone and voltage on a dryloop line, their is also a phone # associated with the dryloop line.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:40:57 EDT

Martin posted : Yes Shipwreck! I am a Bell technician ;)

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:14:01 EDT

Shipwreck posted : Thanks Anonymuss. I went with non bell service.
So just run the lines from the inside jack to the outside box, connect the red and green lines, plug in the RJ11 and I'm all set?

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:31:13 EDT

anon posted : If you're signing up for Bell internet, then a tech will run a new line inside from the demarc for the standard jack installation fee.

If you're getting a non-Bell service, then the dry loop will be left in the demarc, and there is no option to pay to have a new line run. You're on your own.

Run a new line from the red/green screws on the right into the house if you're doing it on your own.

And dry loops have voltage and dialtone on them. You just can't make outgoing calls on it. It won't let you.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:40:13 EDT

Shipwreck posted : OK, but as I said, there is no wiring coming into the house at all. The black wires you see connected in the photo run to the outside of the box and are cut and hang about 2 feet outside the box. So I'll need to do the inside wiring myself so I don;t have to pay for it.
Is the box not already set up for dryloop?

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:19:30 EDT

JCohen posted :

said by Shipwreck:

Hey Tiger. Are you answering my question to JCohen? If so, why would a tech need to install anything if it's already there?

Yes, he was answering my question. The technician will be making all the connections to and from your demarc.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:18:16 EDT

Shipwreck posted : Hey Tiger. Are you answering my question to JCohen? If so, why would a tech need to install anything if it's already there?

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:49:57 EDT

tigerpaw509 posted : Same wire (cable pair)that now is in place.Only reason its called a dry loop is because there is no voltage.......hence the term dry.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:40:09 EDT

Shipwreck posted : JCohen, what does the tech need to install for the dry loop?

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:39:27 EDT

Shipwreck posted : Thanks Martin.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:06:21 EDT

JCohen posted : When the technician comes to do the install for the dry loop he will wire up the demarc for you.

Re: [Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:12:43 EDT

Martin posted : You have to plug your red and green terminals of the same color in the right part of the limp, remove the old black wire.

Do not forget to plug the small connector RJ11 (small flat gray wire) into the white jack.

[Internet] Need help wiring from demarc for dry loop ADSL

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 16:52:59 EDT

Shipwreck posted : I have a new ADSL service being activate this Thursday (January 18,2013) using dry loop.
Problem is, my place hasn't been wired for phone service. I live in the lower part of a duplex, and there is a Bell phone box outside on the wall, and the underground wiring is connected, but there are no wires coming into the house, and no distribution box/device.
The attached image is all there is.
I have the wiring and jack to install, but I need to know which wires to connect where at the demarc point. The wiring I have is two pair (red, green, yellow, black).
Can someone let me know which of the four wires to connect to the Bell box and where to connect them to use dry loop?
Thanks in advance.
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