Topic '[Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup' in forum 'Networking' - dslreports.com

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:51:34 EDT

tomdlgns posted :

said by Anav:

Rotate the routers, in other words program the 3rd router to be the 1st router and vice versa. If its the router the problems should follow the router, if the problem hits the same LAN then maybe its some wiriing in that setup.

Physicall switch the router and reprogram them to handle the different LAN.

said by HELLFIRE:

Second Anav's comments. Also, if this network is as large as you say it is 100+ hosts, I'd look into more
flexible / configurable gear. You still haven't answered why the network needs to be segmented into
4 seperate subnets, but with that many machines, it's understandable. There's much more capable gear
in the enterprise arena that can do what you want more reliably.

Regards

yes to both. at first i thought this was a home setup, but after reading that there are 100+ hosts i think it is time to consider upgrading the hardware to something more efficient.

are these networks never going to have to talk to e/o? what if subnet .3.x neets to talk to .2.x?

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:47:49 EDT

HELLFIRE posted : Second Anav's comments. Also, if this network is as large as you say it is 100+ hosts, I'd look into more
flexible / configurable gear. You still haven't answered why the network needs to be segmented into
4 seperate subnets, but with that many machines, it's understandable. There's much more capable gear
in the enterprise arena that can do what you want more reliably.

Regards

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:42:11 EDT

Anav posted : Rotate the routers, in other words program the 3rd router to be the 1st router and vice versa. If its the router the problems should follow the router, if the problem hits the same LAN then maybe its some wiriing in that setup.

Physicall switch the router and reprogram them to handle the different LAN.

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:58:31 EDT

archonmk posted : So I made an update to my firmware but the same thing happens again. I don't think that it has anything to do with the wireless router because they worked before in a different setup. The network is relatively large 100+ computers but I don't think it's a congestion problem. Any suggestions would be welcomed!!

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:16:14 EDT

archonmk posted : No, I haven't made that mistake but I believe it's a firmware problem so I'll try updating the firmware of the devices and see what happens.

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:08:55 EDT

HELLFIRE posted :

internet|RV042 (192.168.1.1) - RV042 (192.168.2.x network)||-RV042 (192.168.3.x network)|RV042 (192.168.4.x network)

This the layout of your network archonmk ? If so, is the connection from the 192.168.1.1 RV042 going
into the WAN port or LAN port of the other RV042s? If the WAN ports, you're introducing a double NAT situation
and those are not good, especially for types that aren't network savvy.

Dumb question though, what particular need or requirement drove you to need to split your network into these
4 subnets anyways? I'd look into the rest of the RV series of devices, or an actual managed or smart switch,
and see if there's one that'll let you ditch the other gear and set up real VLANs.

My 00000010bits.

Regards

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:28:56 EDT

clarknova posted : If there was a problem at the gateway it would affect all of your connected hosts. The fact that you are having problems with hosts on just one of three routers tells you that there is an issue with that router, or at the limit, the gateway's relationship with that router.

I too would use a multi-LAN router like pfsense or m0n0wall in a setup like this. Even (some versions of) Tomato support vlans and could handle all three of your LANs on a shared internet connection. It's the sensible way to set it up, but if you don't have the hardware to do it, then I guess you make do. There's no reason your 4-router solution shouldn't work, assuming all four routers are in good working condition and functioning correctly.
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db

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:41:42 EDT

tomdlgns posted : i would consider installing pfsense on an old computer with a few NICs. you can do excatly what you want with 1 router/firewall (pfsense) and you wouldn't need the additional devices.

also, you can manage everything from 1 webGUI/IP address. right now, you have 4 devices you have the option to connect into. 3 of them being the routers you are trying to get working. i realize you already have the hardware and almost 100% operational, just giving you a suggestion. you may benefit (in the long run) from being able to manage everything in 1 location.

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:31:21 EDT

archonmk posted : The end goal is for all of the subnets to get internet without having to buy additional equipment. I read in the system log of the gateway multiple connection refused events but my firewall is disabled my that is causing the issue.

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:55:59 EDT

tomdlgns posted : i am not trying to de-rail this topic, but what are you trying to accomplish? would a higher end router that has vlan capabilities be a better option for you?

of course it would be nice to get your setup working/figure out why the third one isnt working, but what is the end goal?

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:22:03 EDT

archonmk posted : How can i detect if there is a congestion problem in the gateway?

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 02:10:54 EDT

clarknova posted :

said by archonmk:

Is there something wrong with my setup

I think you answered your own question. If the three routers are configured the same (you didn't say it, but you implied it), and two of three are working, then either you made a mistake on the third one, or it's not functioning properly.

Double-check your config, or better yet, have somebody else check it to make sure it's the same across the three (excepting the IP addresses, of course). If all looks good, trying throwing a different router in place of the suspect one to see if the problems persist.
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db

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:29:18 EDT

AngryBlakMan posted :

said by archonmk:

i'm not able to ping the gateway from any of the routers. Is there something wrong with my setup.

have you created static routes from .1 to .2, .3 & .4? otherwise, the only way any devices on any of those subnets can communicate with .1 is through NAT and perhaps this is creating a problem for you.

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:59:06 EDT

archonmk posted : This is the gateway »www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9···dex.html and the other routers are some small Linksys wireless routers

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:52:25 EDT

archonmk posted : Cisco RV042

Re: [Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:40:42 EDT

Napsterbater posted : If 2 of 3 are working I would say something is suspect on the one having the issues.

What model devices are these?

[Other] 1 Gateway Multiple Subnets setup

Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:46:53 EDT

archonmk posted : I have 1 gateway connected to the internet and with an address 192.168.1.1 i have 3 other routers connected through a switch to the gateway and each of this routers has its own subnet 192.168.2.x, 192.168.3.x, 192.168.4.x with /24 subnet mask for each of them and 192.168.1.1 as a gateway. The computers on each of the three subnets have their router's address as their gateway 192.168.2.1 ..., etc for every subnet respectively . Every thing works fine with the internet on the two of the subnets but on one of them i keep loosing the internet connection and i'm not able to ping the gateway from any of the routers. Is there something wrong with my setup.