 andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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 ·TekSavvy DSL
| Shaw sells Mountain Cablevision to Rogers Among other things.
"CALGARY, ALBERTA--(Marketwire - Jan. 14, 2013) - Shaw Communications Inc. (TSX:SJR.B)(NYSE:SJR) ("Shaw" or "the Company") announced today that it has entered into agreements with Rogers Communications Inc. ("Rogers") to sell to Rogers its shares in its Hamilton-based cable operations, Mountain Cablevision Limited ("Mountain Cable"), grant to Rogers an option to acquire Shaw's spectrum licenses for advanced wireless service in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Northern Ontario (the "Spectrum Licenses") and to purchase from Rogers its 33.3% partnership interest in the TVtropolis General Partnership ("TVtropolis")."
»www.marketwire.com/press-release···5530.htm |
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand | Holy shit, well its just a matter of time before Cogeco is up for grabs.
Rogers should not be allowed to aquire Shaws spectrum(they're not going to launch cell service) , it should go back in the pot. |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | Welcome to North America. The Government doesn't care as long as it eventually gets used in some way. |
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 BGBWants moar interwebzPremium
join:2009-07-09
Waterloo, ON | reply to andyb
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cog_biz_useri ruin threads apparently
join:2011-04-19
Hamilton, ON | reply to andyb
I can understand why Shaw would want AWS space, but why a slice of tv tropolis? It's a terrible channel.  |
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 DKSDamn Kidney StonesPremium,ExMod 2002
join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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·Bell Sympatico
| said by cog_biz_user:I can understand why Shaw would want AWS space, but why a slice of tv tropolis? It's a terrible channel.
Irrelevant. It is guaranteed revenue, as it is paid for by cable subscribers on a per user basis.
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| said by DKS:said by cog_biz_user:I can understand why Shaw would want AWS space, but why a slice of tv tropolis? It's a terrible channel.
Irrelevant. It is guaranteed revenue, as it is paid for by cable subscribers on a per user basis. ....in a bundle.
The minute people can purchase channels a la carte, Shaw will have to writedown the value of TV Tropolis to effectively zero.
Shaw probably would have been smarter to sell the AWS spectrum to Wind, and then sell the cable assets separately to Rogers or Cogeco. |
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resa1983Premium
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North York, ON
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| said by MaynardKrebs:said by DKS:said by cog_biz_user:I can understand why Shaw would want AWS space, but why a slice of tv tropolis? It's a terrible channel.
Irrelevant. It is guaranteed revenue, as it is paid for by cable subscribers on a per user basis. ....in a bundle. The minute people can purchase channels a la carte, Shaw will have to writedown the value of TV Tropolis to effectively zero. Shaw probably would have been smarter to sell the AWS spectrum to Wind, and then sell the cable assets separately to Rogers or Cogeco. Rogers probably would have made it a deal breaker, just to keep it out of Wind's hands.
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to andyb
I can almost guarantee if the Shaw family wanted out entirely, they would make an offer first to Rogers for all of their assets. Shaw and Rogers are competitors in some cases but they're also buddies. |
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand Reviews:
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| said by mlerner:I can almost guarantee if the Shaw family wanted out entirely, they would make an offer first to Rogers for all of their assets. Shaw and Rogers are competitors in some cases but they're also buddies.
Like the little deal to swap Scarborough with Rogers assets out west.
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 GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3 | reply to andyb
Poor, poor bastards on the mountain. |
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand | reply to andyb
Be interesting to see if the CRTC and the Competition bureau rubber stamp this. |
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GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
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| said by elwoodblues:Be interesting to see if the CRTC and the Competition bureau rubber stamp this. For competition purposes I don't think it's that big of a deal. The far bigger story is that Rogers finally ended up with something they desperately wanted for a very long time.
I have to wonder just what Shaw got in return for this, because the whole Mountain Cable situation was a very sour point in their otherwise cozy relationship. |
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andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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·TekSavvy DSL
| On the cable thing probably not as its a small footprint but on the AWS...Rogers already owns 23% of all the AWS spectrum and I dont believe they even use it.Combined Rogers,Bell and Telus have 55%.Shaw owns 7% and still I dont think any of that 62% is actually used
Percentages are available here
»www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.ns···tml#s4.1 |
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yyzlhr
join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:1 | reply to Gone
said by Gone:said by elwoodblues:Be interesting to see if the CRTC and the Competition bureau rubber stamp this. For competition purposes I don't think it's that big of a deal. The far bigger story is that Rogers finally ended up with something they desperately wanted for a very long time. From a competitive standpoint, the acquisition of Shaw's hamilton assets doesn't make the landscape there any more or less competitive. Whether the deal goes through or not, there will be three providers in the Hamilton region, and each provider has their own geographical monopoly anyways.
The real competition issue comes from the spectrum. AWS spectrum was set aside specifically for new entrants who need the spectrum more desperately than Rogers/Bell/Telus. |
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GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3 | Yeah I could see AWS being an issue. Then again, Bell and Rogers already own a near 50/50 split of BRS spectrum across the entire country. |
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andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | Is that not unused now also?If so like over 30% or more of unused spectrum among the big 3 |
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grunze510
join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC
kudos:1 | Wait, hold up. Wasn't one of the rules in the 2009ish spectrum auction that Robellus wasn't supposed allowed to buy spectrum because they wouldn't use it?
... Whatever. |
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GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
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No, Bell and Rogers both have BWS deployments. Rogers is even selling phones now that use BWS rather than AWS for LTE.
BWS - 2500-2690MHz - is what the Europeans will be using for LTE, in case anyone cares. I believe we're the only country that's going to be using both 700MHz and BWS for LTE. The Americans aren't doing BWS and the Europeans aren't doing 700MHz. |
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
join:2006-08-30
HarperLand Reviews:
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HA, the rumors of Cogeco's sale have come up again with this sale.
I can read it on my tablet using the app (they haven't figured how to lock that down yet). If anyone has a "Globe Unlimited" account please post the story here.
If the past Louis Audet has said no, but recently his father passed away and no doubt the shares will get divided amongst the wife and kids.
Apparently the dividends the company pays out on the Audet holdings is only $2m/yr while Louis is bringing in $3m as CEO. With Mountain cable sold to Rogers, Rogers now controls the territory on 3 sides of Cogeco.
Just like the Waters family said they wouldn't sell Chum upon the passing of their father, I'm sure it's a matter of time before Cogeco is up for grabs.
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