High school in Ontario is a joke.

I'm biting my tongue. It hurts.

I think I did okay.

and a population who doesn't want to pay any taxes.

(hahaha, I just wanted to say that)

i don't doubt you at all...however, as has been mentioned, University used to be about "getting accepted" (meaning, having good grades and working hard)...

The free ride were those on their parent's gravy train [deleted]

i don't think you could "pick and choose" which courses are paid for, but i do agree there would still be requirements needed...for example, you would still need solid grades to go to University, to weed out the filler...

If particular sectors in Canada need people I can understand subsidizing certain programs to attract students and create workers. I'm pretty much against free post secondary though. Europe is a really bad example. How much debt did those countries rack up with all their extra social programs? :)

Yes. However, I probably won't have has as good job prospects if I wasn't out with friends and meeting new people.

Most of my friends and I will have OSAP gone within 1-2 years of graduating.

Keep that attitude and hopefully that will serve you well. I've done my best to avoid debt. I don't count a small equity loan against a paid off home. I pay my cc each month, pay down the equity loan, and try to keep myself in the best financial situation that I can.

There are plenty of folks who are more suited to working with their hands (so to speak0 then being educated on how to be a paralegal.

I went back to school a few years ago (done now) and was amazed at how many students admitted they got an excess of OSAP money.

Debt scares the bleep out of me. I've never been in debt well other then my student loan when I owed on it. I'm pretty careful with money and budget pretty good. I got a CC but pay it off in full each month only ever had to pay interest once as I forgot to pay it on time. I also paid for 2 of my college terms myself and skipped getting more loan money.

Education should not cost 37K (in the case of dragonfly). Education , like in many European countries, should be "free" all the way into post secondary.

More than a decade ago I was grossing a fuckton less than $55k a year and managed to pay off around $30k in 5 years so I don't see that as an issue for anyone. It does take a lot of working hours though... work hard now, play more later.

If you're grossing $55k a year, you should be able to pay down that $37k in less than 5 years, and that's still not being all that aggressive.

- Landed an internship at a software engineering firm, hired on full time as a C#/ASP.Net developer, I now gross around $55k with two years experience.

Student loan of $37k mostly due to being ineligible for bursaries my final year. It'd be $28k otherwise.

I can afford to pay it back, but $300/mo for 15 years is quite a lot for anyone.

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Anyhow, the point being, I myself would not have qualified for the "free tuition" under the Nordic system due to a low GPA out of high school.

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So because education is "free" does that we're going to have a glut of architects and their skills then are worthless? I would argue because education is not free, we may have a shortage of architects, because people who have the aptitude to become one, can't afford to go to school.

well it's simple if a skill becomes common cause people get free school then that skill is no longer as rare and is not worth as much.

well if you do that then the education is not worth anything. The idea of education being a right is fine and all but you got to tie a money value to it.chosen career as you had to take 4 gen eds to finish your diploma.