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rogersmogers

@start.ca
reply to Sanek

Re: [Cable] Need faster upload!!!

said by Sanek:

said by bt:

Not with Start.

And that's a deal-breaker for me. What if something on my network gets stuck in a download loop - I don't want that to bankrupt me. Sorry, but that's scary!

Like what, I have never heard of a download loop in my 15 years online.


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to WhyNoUpload

said by WhyNoUpload:

Having 1mbps of upload speed on cable in 2013 is like not having access to clean drinking water.

That's a pretty gross exaggeration seeing essentially necessary water is to you living and internet is a luxury.

NBomb

join:2007-01-23
Etobicoke, ON

It's an exaggeration, but it's not gross. Internet really should be treated as a vital utility these days, like phone, power, heat, water. It's not vital to life, but it's vital to many aspects of living, today.



TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to WhyNoUpload

said by WhyNoUpload:

Not entirely Teksavvys fault but this is way to ridiculous. Having 1mbps of upload speed on cable in 2013 is like not having access to clean drinking water. I don't have access to anything other than cable so this is my only option. The CRTC should treat this like a national crisis!

Yep first world problems at its finest.

No, it is a gross exaggeration. A better comparison would have been to say it's like having no phone. But even then, the issue raised is not whether have your internet or not, it's speeds. Having high upload speeds are not vital.

InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
kudos:5
reply to NBomb

said by NBomb:

It's an exaggeration, but it's not gross.

While Internet may be a very convenient commodity, high speeds certainly aren't essential. Being able to visit government sites, pay bills online, etc. is almost-essential but these can be almost be done reasonably quickly even on 512k DSL. Hosting game servers, uploading 10GB of photos on FB or 10GB of videos on Youtube however are not likely to be considered essential any time soon.

If it is essential for your job, get your employer to set you up with something faster at his own expense. If your employer refuses then it is quite possible that your employer does not consider you (or you having faster internet) quite that essential.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by InvalidError:

If it is essential for your job, get your employer to set you up with something faster at his own expense. If your employer refuses then it is quite possible that your employer does not consider you (or you having faster internet) quite that essential.

Maybe they could consider that option when that option exists.

bbhog

join:2010-07-05
North York, ON

1 edit
reply to Sanek

said by Sanek:

//Edit: Whoa - I checked this 3 days ago and thats the best they had available for my area code. Now they're reporting I can get 45/4/350 GB - $59.95/month with a free service transfer.

Yeah the grass is certainly STARTing to look greener on the other side.

$15 more per month for 45/4 vs 28/1


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to 34764170

said by 34764170:

said by InvalidError:

If it is essential for your job, get your employer to set you up with something faster at his own expense. If your employer refuses then it is quite possible that your employer does not consider you (or you having faster internet) quite that essential.

Maybe they could consider that option when that option exists.

Except the option does exist. Consumer grade internet connections aren't the only ones out there.

chrisl83

join:2011-06-21
Almonte, ON

Oh okay, it all makes sense now

those of us that need more then 1 megabit upload should all just get business lines or just get a fiber line.

God, why didn't I think of that... hang on while I go plant that money tree.



TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

said by chrisl83:

Oh okay, it all makes sense now

those of us that need more then 1 megabit upload should all just get business lines or just get a fiber line.

God, why didn't I think of that... hang on while I go plant that money tree.

How about reading what's posted? I never said 1Mbps is satisfactory.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to chrisl83

said by chrisl83:

Oh okay, it all makes sense now

those of us that need more then 1 megabit upload should all just get business lines or just get a fiber line.

God, why didn't I think of that... hang on while I go plant that money tree.

Exactly.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to TypeS

said by TypeS:

Except the option does exist. Consumer grade internet connections aren't the only ones out there.

Show me TSI's business cable service never mind ones with higher upstream speeds.

funny0

join:2010-12-22
reply to WhyNoUpload

move to pirate heaven antigua!


The Mongoose

join:2010-01-05
Toronto, ON
reply to 34764170

said by 34764170:

said by TypeS:

Except the option does exist. Consumer grade internet connections aren't the only ones out there.

Show me TSI's business cable service never mind ones with higher upstream speeds.

TSI doesn't offer every possible service out there. That's hardly new. Not sure what bearing that has on the fact that TekSavvy is doing all they can to get the new upload speeds from Rogers on consumer cable. (And yes, they could abandon everything they put into distributed POI infrastructure, but even if they were that suicidal, it wouldn't happen tomorrow).

If it's moving too slow for customers and they're willing to take on the uncertainty and added costs to get the new speeds faster, they should move to Start. It's a perfectly reasonable option, one I thnk a lot of people will consider if things don't go well at the CRTC. Arguing over whether 1mbps is enough, or business vs. consumer, etc, is kind of pointless.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by The Mongoose:

TSI doesn't offer every possible service out there. That's hardly new.

I don't know why you're replying to me. He made the original comment.

No, Start is not a reasonable option for me, not even close.


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to 34764170

said by 34764170:

said by TypeS:

Except the option does exist. Consumer grade internet connections aren't the only ones out there.

Show me TSI's business cable service never mind ones with higher upstream speeds.

Are you ignorant intentionally or just brain dead?

There are other ISPs other than TekSavvy. Beauty of a free(-ish) market, there are other competitors (other than other TPIAs or the incumbents).

Your attitude of wanting x amount of service at y price is no different than Rogers wanting x amount of profits at y cost.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by TypeS:

Are you ignorant intentionally or just brain dead?

There are other ISPs other than TekSavvy. Beauty of a free(-ish) market, there are other competitors (other than other TPIAs or the incumbents).

I was thinking that about you but I held back from saying it.

But none of them offer appropriate service, otherwise I would be using them already.


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1

So there are alternatives but you're choosing not to go with them.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

Seriously you're so dumb it is amazing.



TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

Because I explained how there other alternatives if higher upload is crucial to someone right now while other ISPs catch up?

For pointing how ridiculous it is to compare the speed of an internet service a vital resource to sustain life?

Think its time to re-evaluate what constitutes "dumb".


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by TypeS:

Because I explained how there other alternatives if higher upload is crucial to someone right now while other ISPs catch up?

For pointing how ridiculous it is to compare the speed of an internet service a vital resource to sustain life?

Think its time to re-evaluate what constitutes "dumb".

You're assuming those are viable alternatives. I didn't say it was crucial either but the year is 2013 not 2002.

I don't think it is vital but you're implying that essentially no one has any requirement for reasonable upload speeds and no having to have a money tree to attain those speeds is not reasonable either. I don't consider the "new" speed tiers from Rogers to meet my definition of reasonable either. They bumped up to speeds to make their connections just "usable" but that's about it.


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

I never said their isn't a need for reasonable upload speeds.

BUT, the OP equated not having better upload speeds to not having better speeds to not having clean drinking water.

The internet, in general, is not a life or death utility.

Yes uploading/streaming HD video is becoming quite commonplace

Yes storing data on the internet via services like those by Amazon, Google, etc. is gaining popularity.

But even still, none of that is as serious or the lack thereof "dire".

Rogers offer 150/10 and Bell offers 50/50 at around the $100 mark. Then there is their 250/250 and 175/175 plans (although so narrowly available at moment.