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Dodge
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Mortgages

As a follow up to this topic: »Picking location to buy a house

I've narrowed down the area where I would like to buy a house, now I just have to get pre-approval for mortgage in order to know for a fact what I can get as far as a loan. How does one go about getting a mortgage pre-approval? There are so many places, banks, brokers, internet only outfits, that I don't even know where to begin. For example, quickly looking through Zillow mortgage there are a few places that offer good APR, but the fact that their closing costs are $1 or very low (offset by "lender incentives") kind of scares me as it looks scamy.

So how does a person go about picking a mortgage?

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

I used a mortgage broker recommended by our agent. Rates and closing costs were competitive and it was very easy. Other than that, I'd have used our credit union or shop around. But we needed simple and quick as we needed the loan turned around in just around a month.

$1 closing costs are almost always offset by rolling into the loan or upping the APR.



John97
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reply to Dodge
I just bought my house in early November. I used Quicken Loans, mainly because I was moving from Pennsylvania to Florida. I am happy with how it all went. Everything went down as it was all spelled out and there weren't any "gotcha" moments or surprises to speak of.
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Bob
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reply to Dodge
Preapproval does not guarantee that you'll get the mortgage. What they do is take your monthly income, multiply by 28%, and say you're preapproved for a monthly payment and property taxes of that amount, as long as you put down 20%.

There you go. That was simple. When you actually apply, they can go as high as 35%, depending on your circumstances (credit history and job history are important).

A formal preapproval is really to set the buyer's mind at ease and make it more likely that they'll accept your offer. Look at banks in your area; they usually have the rates and payment information online. Pick one with good rates and get their preapproval.


Dodge
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said by Bob:

Preapproval does not guarantee that you'll get the mortgage. What they do is take your monthly income, multiply by 28%, and say you're preapproved for a monthly payment and property taxes of that amount, as long as you put down 20%.

There you go. That was simple. When you actually apply, they can go as high as 35%, depending on your circumstances (credit history and job history are important).

A formal preapproval is really to set the buyer's mind at ease and make it more likely that they'll accept your offer. Look at banks in your area; they usually have the rates and payment information online. Pick one with good rates and get their preapproval.

Are you sure you are not confusing pre-approval and pre-qualification?

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reply to Dodge
I wanted to work with a real person in my area. So I when I went for a mortgage I chose a local bank--as in a LOCAL bank, not just a local branch of a national chain.

I was very happy with my loan officer, she stuck through (3) different homes where we had to back out after inspection process. She was invaluable about providing local insight, advice on the realtors, etc...

My loan was not the absolute lowest rate, and the closing costs were not the absolute lowest, but they were very competitive at the time.

When I went for a HELOC I used another local bank for that, again it was very nice to be able to deal with local people and a local organization.



SwedishRider
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said by bemis:

I wanted to work with a real person in my area. So I when I went for a mortgage I chose a local bank--as in a LOCAL bank, not just a local branch of a national chain.

I was very happy with my loan officer, she stuck through (3) different homes where we had to back out after inspection process. She was invaluable about providing local insight, advice on the realtors, etc...

My loan was not the absolute lowest rate, and the closing costs were not the absolute lowest, but they were very competitive at the time.

When I went for a HELOC I used another local bank for that, again it was very nice to be able to deal with local people and a local organization.

+1 on local banks. You won't get the absolute lowest rates, but they are usually competitive and having local people handling the servicing of your account is a huge benefit.

dharel1705

join:2009-06-09
Merrick, NY

reply to Dodge
Who do you do your banking with? You should consider starting there. When we started house shopping a few years ago, we were easily pre-qualified and pre-approved by our bank due to the number of accounts and amounts in them. As others have said, being pre-qualified helps your realtor because nowadays most sellers and their agents won't consider you as a buyer without it. Having the pre-qualification and/or approval gets your realtor in the door.



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reply to Dodge
Another +1 on using local people.

You're going to be sharing a lot of sensitive details with the loan company. Shop around, but I would only want to work with reputable people.

Get a good realtor and they'll almost always have someone they can recommend. It's in their best interests to hook you up with someone who has a good track record of drama-free closing.

I made the mistake of calling some of the companies who listed really low rates when I was looking to refi. Some of these outfits robo-called me relentlessly for weeks! I wasn't about to give my business to scum like that.
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Dodge
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said by djrobx:

Some of these outfits robo-called me relentlessly for weeks! I wasn't about to give my business to scum like that.

That's why I only give out my GV number and that has DND turned out most of the time:)

The problem for me is that local where I live now is not the same as local where I'm buying.


acid343211
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reply to Dodge

said by Dodge:

As a follow up to this topic: »Picking location to buy a house

I've narrowed down the area where I would like to buy a house, now I just have to get pre-approval for mortgage in order to know for a fact what I can get as far as a loan. How does one go about getting a mortgage pre-approval? There are so many places, banks, brokers, internet only outfits, that I don't even know where to begin. For example, quickly looking through Zillow mortgage there are a few places that offer good APR, but the fact that their closing costs are $1 or very low (offset by "lender incentives") kind of scares me as it looks scamy.

So how does a person go about picking a mortgage?

Use your Local Credit Union Better rates then Local Banks.
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Bob
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As you can see, my local commercial bank has better rates than my local credit union:

Term   Bank     CU
---- ------ ------
10yr 2.625% 2.875%
13yr 2.700% N/A
15yr 2.750% 2.875%
20yr 3.375% 3.375%
30yr 3.500% 3.500%


acid343211
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Byron, GA

said by Bob:

As you can see, my local commercial bank has better rates than my local credit union:

Term   Bank     CU
---- ------ ------
10yr 2.625% 2.875%
13yr 2.700% N/A
15yr 2.750% 2.875%
20yr 3.375% 3.375%
30yr 3.500% 3.500%

Looks like the same for 30 year..... that's yours,,

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alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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said by djrobx:

Get a good realtor and they'll almost always have someone they can recommend. It's in their best interests to hook you up with someone who has a good track record of drama-free closing.

It's in their best interest that you qualify through any means necessary, even if a financial adviser would recommend you against getting X amount for a mortgage.

I've seen a lot of terrible advices given by brokers which lead to drama a few years down the line AFTER closing (when the broker is long gone).

If you're new at this game, go to a local branch (as others said) who are used to talking with people and taking their time to analyze your needs and explain your options.

Nyan Cat's rates are posted rate. I doubt the CU would have much difficulty matching the commercial bank rates in the 15 years mark (above are already matched).

said by Dodge:

Are you sure you are not confusing pre-approval and pre-qualification?

The difference is that a pre-approval is just a rough estimate approval without a credit check and proofs of revenue.

Pre-qualification is going through the whole motion of qualifying, but without a property. I RARELY ever see that being done. It's a whole lot of work that an underwriter doesn't want to be bothered with.

Pre-approval is typically just as reliable as pre-qualification. The only difference is that if the client is lying through his ass (Oh I make 100K$, no late payments ever, no other debts LIES LIES LIES!!), then obviously the result will be just as good as his lies.

guppy_fish
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reply to Dodge
Credit Union, your not just getting good local service, your also helping your local community and employment and for others to get this in the future.

Even if you have a pre-approval, its always contingent on getting all the verifications done, a pre-approval is all based on what you provide and nothing else.


Parneli

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Naperville, IL
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reply to Bob

said by Bob:

As you can see, my local commercial bank has better rates than my local credit union:

Term   Bank     CU
---- ------ ------
10yr 2.625% 2.875%
13yr 2.700% N/A
15yr 2.750% 2.875%
20yr 3.375% 3.375%
30yr 3.500% 3.500%

Unless you're getting a huge rebate on it, those rates are HIGH!

3.26 30yr
2.5 15yr

both with 300 or so appraisal and zero to a few hundred in fees if you've got good credit are rates that are more in line with what you should be getting.

Rates have been under 3.5 30yr for at least a year.

TheSMJ

join:2009-08-19
Farmington, MI

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reply to Dodge
You can get pre-approval from anywhere. I'm in the home buying process now (closing is on the 30th) and got my pre-approval from Chase only because I could fill out the form online and have the results emailed to me quickly.

After the whole bidding process was over and I knew how much of a mortgage I needed, I actually shopped around and ended up choosing the company my realtor recommended. In my case that was Rate One Inc, which is located in Tennessee. I myself live in Michigan, and while the whole process was over the phone/email, I never had a lick of trouble with them. As a matter of fact, the owner of the company and her staff have been an enormous help. I'm quite certain large banks or even the medium sized CU I belong to wouldn't have done what she did, such as writing a letter to the seller letting her know my loan was ready to move so she could stop worrying about the fact that I'm running under an FHA.

FWIW, my credit union only offers 15-year fixed mortgages and 5-year balloon. No clue why they wouldn't offer 30-year fixed given that they're the most popular and the standard.



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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said by TheSMJ:

I'm quite certain large banks or even the medium sized CU I belong to wouldn't have done what she did, such as writing a letter to the seller letting her know my loan was ready to move so she could stop worrying about the fact that I'm running under an FHA.

You mean she lied to the seller by making a false letter stating your mortgage was approved?

Ya, nobody would do that because that the moment you can't get the mortgage REALLY approved, you WILL get in a $^|7I load of trouble and cause a major domino effect that ruins plans/lives for the sellers & buyers.

TheSMJ

join:2009-08-19
Farmington, MI

No. She did it because it IS approved, underwritten and waiting.



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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said by TheSMJ:

No. She did it because it IS approved, underwritten and waiting.

Oh then any bank/CU would do that no problem. It's almost always needed since it's typically a condition in the purchase agreement. The purchase agreement can expire in X many days unless a proof of financing is given.
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