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FFH5
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This is good for AT&T and AT&T wireless customers

Net Neutrality - who cares. This is good for the AT&T wireless customer and allows them to get good reception in the home without incurring additional costs due to cap overages. It is good for AT&T and the customers as it moves congestion from the cell network.
BSchlinker
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AT&T is still using customer's data plan allotment for data which flows through their home internet connection. To be honest, this is probably why they are wiling to ignore this data when calculating the home broadband usage.

Even if the user has an internet connection through Comcast, I imagine that the data still flows through part of AT&T's network, as the microcell probably sets up some sort of VPN / tunnel. However, it doesn't flow through the most congested part of their network, so I can't imagine how they justify charging the customer / using their data plan allotment.

Then again, they don't need to justify much, do they?
Skippy25
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Yes and it would be a good thing for Sprint customers that have AT&T as a ISP, as well as Verizon and T-Mobile customers. Oh wait.... that's right it still counts against their caps so maybe it isn't such a good thing for them. Now they get to have their mobile data cap AND there internet data cap getting used all for the same bits.

It is traffic going across your internet connection. Its origin and destination are not relevant as it still travels through your router, across your last mile and through their network. Hence the bigger issue with this and the exact reason why I care.
axus
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It's bad for Verizon, and anti-competitive. Unless AT&T is exempting VOIP and competitors femtocells from the data cap?
en103
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AT&T's meters have a 20% markup on data to cover ATM overhead, so they're already effectively charging 20% of any data used, which is probably less than a cell would use.

The bad part on this - is that they're not letting competing products 'bypass' the billing (Netflx, YouTube, Hulu) even if they wanted. That's the big deal here.
Crookshanks
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That's exactly how it works, it establishes a VPN back to your wireless provider. Everything is routed over that VPN.

As far as charging for data (or even minutes/SMS), keep in mind that you're still using cellular frequencies, which the carrier paid billions for the privilege of having access too, and femtocells do not come with zero impact on the macro network. The power/channel management logic on the back end of these devices is exceedingly complex, it's not just another Wi-Fi AP.

RR Conductor
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said by FFH5:

Net Neutrality - who cares. This is good for the AT&T wireless customer and allows them to get good reception in the home without incurring additional costs due to cap overages. It is good for AT&T and the customers as it moves congestion from the cell network.

I'm sure the big corporations don't care, they're out to enrich themselves, not the country, or her people.