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Jaxom

join:2012-03-10
East York, ON

Whitehouse petition to make patent trolls pay

This is timely:

»petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitio···gWPpVYMt


AkFubar
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join:2005-02-28
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Yeah you really need something like this in the US. People sue for anything down there and the courts rubber stamp a lot of the Troll claims (or at least have been).
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If my online experience is enhanced, why are my speeds throttled?? BHell... A Public Futility.


funny

join:2010-12-22

reply to Jaxom
im in canada why do i care



TwiztedZero
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said by funny:

im in canada why do i care

Because sooner or later it affects things here too... you think we're immune just because we're Canadian?


ontarian

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reply to funny

said by funny:

im in canada why do i care

Cause potentially your arse is next in line?

InvalidError

join:2008-02-03
kudos:5

reply to Jaxom

Re: Whitehouse petition to make patent trolls pay

The petition should go one step further and allow punitive damages at least up to the troll's claim or even a multiple thereof on top of court and defense fees when the troll's case gets dismissed with prejudice.

This way, when a patent troll tries to sue for 100M$ and their victim produces reasonable proof that the patent should be invalid, the trolls would have to think thrice before pushing their luck any further or risk having to pay over 100M$ in punitive damage if their extortion attempt blows up in their face. This should also have a chilling effect on inflated damage claims: if you claim 10X your actual damages, you increase your risk by over 10X if you lose.

Sadly though, this still does not solve the fundamental problem of PTOs granting stupid/obvious patents by the bucket in the first place.

shepd

join:2004-01-17
Kitchener, ON
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reply to Jaxom
Gonna need a lot more meat in it than that if anyone expects it won't turn into a "Make patents cost more and tack in some gun and school legislation for a bonus" free-for-all.

More than that, the courts make a mint off these cases, so the government has everything to lose and nothing to gain from denying them.



sbrook
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reply to Jaxom
The patent offices in most countries are not doing due dilligence in approving patents in the first place and with fees of only $195 per patent, it's clearly not worth their effort to do so.

The simple answer is to make the patent seeker PAY big time to protect his inventions.

A similar thing should be done with copyright for anyone who wants to collect more thana a "sorry I used your work" apology!


Pampers

join:2013-01-18

reply to Jaxom
Here's a challenge..

Can anyone now give the motives that since the early 90's there has been a lobby to make 'Patent Trolls' pay? Funded movies, lobbying colleges, universities, gov't, and.. of course.. corporations

Use critical thinking on this and ask who really benefits from all this?



QuantumPimp

join:2012-02-19
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reply to Jaxom
All of the news related to patent trolling and the recent Voltage lawsuit has made me realize that I've been far too complacent wrt government patent and licencing policies that have an increasingly significant impact to my life.

I've begun to make a concerted effort to be more aware of the issues. Towards that end I appreciate references like the one posted by the OP. Here are a couple more:

US News: One year ago today, you help us beat SOPA. Thanks Reddit. This is EFF, Ask Us Anything. »www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1···_thanks/

See here for A Look At The Next Five Battles For Internet Freedom: »www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/01/ye···-freedom. The nearest Canadian equivalent I could find is here: »www.openmedia.ca/

I am still learning but to my mind the biggest policy threat to internet freedom comes from the Trans Pacific Partnership. Many pundits suggest that the most draconian policies in the TPP are being dictated by Hollywood. If this is true, as a Canadian, what is the most effective way to oppose these policy changes? Supporting the EFF is great but I'm also looking for guidance or a recipe from a Canadian source.


funny

join:2010-12-22

reply to TwiztedZero

said by TwiztedZero:

said by funny:

im in canada why do i care

Because sooner or later it affects things here too... you think we're immune just because we're Canadian?

yes last i checked you can even injunctify samsung if you wish , doesn't mean it happens here NOR affects me
quit trying to yack about american law that is differant then canada
its your problem deal with it
no really im sick of americans thinking they have more self importance they they really do.
OH let me know when your debts are paid and yea we need get rid of our teabagger party to get ours done
thats far more important

funny

join:2010-12-22

reply to QuantumPimp

said by QuantumPimp:

All of the news related to patent trolling and the recent Voltage lawsuit has made me realize that I've been far too complacent wrt government patent and licencing policies that have an increasingly significant impact to my life.

I've begun to make a concerted effort to be more aware of the issues. Towards that end I appreciate references like the one posted by the OP. Here are a couple more:

US News: One year ago today, you help us beat SOPA. Thanks Reddit. This is EFF, Ask Us Anything. »www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1···_thanks/

See here for A Look At The Next Five Battles For Internet Freedom: »www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/01/ye···-freedom. The nearest Canadian equivalent I could find is here: »www.openmedia.ca/

I am still learning but to my mind the biggest policy threat to internet freedom comes from the Trans Pacific Partnership. Many pundits suggest that the most draconian policies in the TPP are being dictated by Hollywood. If this is true, as a Canadian, what is the most effective way to oppose these policy changes? Supporting the EFF is great but I'm also looking for guidance or a recipe from a Canadian source.

ohhhhhh canada we stand on guard for thee....sopa aint here nor will it ever be last time vic toews tried it 464000 people dropped a petition in 4 days that would be like i dunno 4-5 million americans doing same and that has never happened...won't in a police state


TwiztedZero
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The Trans Pacific Partnership says HELLO from the halls of secrecy!

... eventually we're gona find out what kinda "mud", we'll be dealing with some day soon.


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