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DrDrew
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reply to Webcobbler

Re: [HD] Is Verizon lying about HD?

said by Webcobbler :

Hell, in 2 years , the HEVC STBs will be in mass production to support UHD feeds, so FiOS needs to put the gas pedal to the floor NOW! The first UHD channels are supposed to be active at the latest, Q1 of 2016. According to sources in that field. I have several articles about it.

Really, you expect UHD to take off anytime soon? 3D capable boxes have been issued for at least 2 years, there are even a few full time 3D channels, and look how popular that has been...

UHD by way of HEVC needs a entire upgrade in end-to-end infrastructure, not to mention the boxes and TVs in peoples homes.

Standard linear video distribution techniques like FIOS and most cable companies use won't be able to cope with any sizable number of UHD channels.
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manshow

join:2013-01-23
Washington, DC
reply to jasontaylor
the number of HD channels fios offers varies by market due to number of local channels. i dun think fios is hiding the number they offer but what is stopping you from counting like u did for comcast? u can scroll thru yer guide or just go to their website/

said by jasontaylor:

Really? Fios don't even say how many hd channels they offer anymore. Comcast has 110. I counted.
Jason


MURICA

join:2013-01-03
reply to DrDrew
said by DrDrew:

said by Webcobbler :

Hell, in 2 years , the HEVC STBs will be in mass production to support UHD feeds, so FiOS needs to put the gas pedal to the floor NOW! The first UHD channels are supposed to be active at the latest, Q1 of 2016. According to sources in that field. I have several articles about it.

Really, you expect UHD to take off anytime soon? 3D capable boxes have been issued for at least 2 years, there are even a few full time 3D channels, and look how popular that has been...

Why not? The Internet will lead the way in UHD video sooner than you think, as it allows anyone to bypass the bureaucracy and use any standards/equipment they want to.

Consumer UHD digital cameras are now available relatively cheap and PCs have been able to playback 4K video with ease for years.

The cable industry is going to have to do something to compete with UHD Internet video eventually. It's going to be mighty embarrassing if they can't even keep up with YouTube.


surfturf

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said by MURICA:

said by DrDrew:

said by Webcobbler :

Hell, in 2 years , the HEVC STBs will be in mass production to support UHD feeds, so FiOS needs to put the gas pedal to the floor NOW! The first UHD channels are supposed to be active at the latest, Q1 of 2016. According to sources in that field. I have several articles about it.

Really, you expect UHD to take off anytime soon? 3D capable boxes have been issued for at least 2 years, there are even a few full time 3D channels, and look how popular that has been...

Why not? The Internet will lead the way in UHD video sooner than you think, as it allows anyone to bypass the bureaucracy and use any standards/equipment they want to.

Consumer UHD digital cameras are now available relatively cheap and PCs have been able to playback 4K video with ease for years.

The cable industry is going to have to do something to compete with UHD Internet video eventually. It's going to be mighty embarrassing if they can't even keep up with YouTube.

will it make u and the OP of this thread happy if oprah winfrey interviewing lance armstrong was in UHD?

MURICA

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DrDrew
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said by MURICA:

Why not? The Internet will lead the way in UHD video sooner than you think, as it allows anyone to bypass the bureaucracy and use any standards/equipment they want to.

Consumer UHD digital cameras are now available relatively cheap and PCs have been able to playback 4K video with ease for years.

The cable industry is going to have to do something to compete with UHD Internet video eventually. It's going to be mighty embarrassing if they can't even keep up with YouTube.

If the cable broadcasters (Viacom, Disney, Comcast, etc.) allow their catalog of video streams and content in UHD over the internet, free or low cost, without requiring a cable or other subscription then the cable companies will have to worry and do something.

Right now that's not the case. UHD is limited to independent and niche sources. The majority of cable broadcasters are also currently requiring cable subscriptions or contracts with big IPTV companies (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) to receive any of their content most of the time.

A way around cable company distribution is going to still have to bring the broadcasters at least the same amount of money per subscriber as they get through cable distribution. They won't settle for less, not for long.

Like the whole SD OWN thing it really comes down to money for the broadcaster. What are they charging and is it worth it for the content they have?
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reply to nascar

Re: [HD] Is Verizon lying about HD?

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said by nascar:

You need to exclude the Fiber since everything else is the weak link. One day, but far from now, Fiber will show its potential. The Fiber cable as opposed to a coaxial cable is the main difference and only for how the TV is broadcast to the home.

Fiber, so far, has been nothing more than a marketing gimmick. Comcast, for example has no disadvantage when it comes to TV. The same Moto devices front end and back end are used. Vz has utilized IP for certain functionality but not for how the TV signal is broadcast to the home(yet). As long as QAM is the method of delivery than only removing SD channels and or compression will lead to more HD channels.

Internet is another matter and then Fiber has the advantage due to how the back end is setup and your in home ONT.

I guessing you never seen HD Mpeg4 re-compressed into mpeg2 HD sucks

see attached photo
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nascar

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Limitation of the front-end, back-end, and the mode of transport. Not the wire it is delivered on. Unless, maybe, it is twisted pair copper telco line.
said by Anonymous_:

said by nascar:

You need to exclude the Fiber since everything else is the weak link. One day, but far from now, Fiber will show its potential. The Fiber cable as opposed to a coaxial cable is the main difference and only for how the TV is broadcast to the home.

Fiber, so far, has been nothing more than a marketing gimmick. Comcast, for example has no disadvantage when it comes to TV. The same Moto devices front end and back end are used. Vz has utilized IP for certain functionality but not for how the TV signal is broadcast to the home(yet). As long as QAM is the method of delivery than only removing SD channels and or compression will lead to more HD channels.

Internet is another matter and then Fiber has the advantage due to how the back end is setup and your in home ONT.

I guessing you never seen HD Mpeg4 re-compressed into mpeg2 HD sucks

see attached photo


crgauth

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reply to jasontaylor
Seems to me that this has taken a turn and is no longer FIOS centric.
Maybe better suited for AVS forum?
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