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bt

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Okay, NOW Wind will definitely be foreign owned

»www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2···eal.html

Deal requires regulatory approval, but it would see Orascom assume full 99.3% ownership.


BliZZardX
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Good news. They don't have any excuses for poor service anymore, they have been underwhelming up to now. I want to see them tear up this market.
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MaynardKrebs
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Now they officially have the cash to buy Mobilicity & 700MHz spectrum.



Guspaz
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reply to bt
Yes. I'm really hoping they get 700 MHz spectrum in Quebec. We could really use more non-incumbent competition in Quebec. Right now, the only non-incumbent in Quebec is Public Mobile. They've been doing great things, but it's not enough.
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El Quintron
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said by Guspaz:

Yes. I'm really hoping they get 700 MHz spectrum in Quebec.

In Quebec and everywhere. A competive 700 MHz LTE based service would kick ass.
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graniterock

join:2003-03-14
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reply to bt
It says from the picture caption that Anthony Lacavera the CEO will likely be leaving to start his own venture company. He was pretty open a year or two ago that he was fairly uphappy with Wind and the red tape.

I don't really know enough about the background or business to understand how them taking a 65% interest and increasing it to 99.3% would be a good, bad or neutral move for wind customers.


funny

join:2010-12-22

reply to bt
the self delusion that foreign ownership WILL translate into lower prices continues....what idiot company would take vastly lower profits when it can co-exist and make its share holders oddles a cash is beyond me.

YUP WIND's owner had financial probs now he wont....
think about cogeco as perfect example.
WHERE they had to actually compete , not only could then not afford to but came to canada and used funds here to keep going and finally used it to buy into the usa market and dump that portugal service.

thats whats gonna happen he will keep status quo here....and use it to lower his other services world wide.
and of course making sick profits in process.

the liberals made these rules for a reason to protect us all
wtf is this about????????
( AND WTF IS THIS WEBSITE DOING LATELY "this website is looking for information according to google chrome )then the post area freezes up and i have to select all and restart again.



Gone
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said by funny:

the self delusion that foreign ownership WILL translate into lower prices continues....what idiot company would take vastly lower profits when it can co-exist and make its share holders oddles a cash is beyond me.

You don't win market share with the same prices as everyone else. Furthermore, there is plenty of money to be paid in the wireless market at lower prices than the Big 3 so long as a company has pockets for long-term outlook and investment.

The fact that the floodgates are open to foreign investment drastically changes the dynamics of the wireless market in this country. Orascom could built out a full national network and charge 25% less than the Big 3 for similar and/or better plans and still make out like a bandit once the debt begins to mature. The key is waiting for that debt to mature. A small Canadian startup can't do that. One of the largest international wireless companies in the world can.

koreyb
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reply to bt
I have had Wind since Dec 2010... I can tell you... from experience, their network has improved 10 fold in Toronto.. especially in the last year.. I have a Galaxy Nexus, and haven't had any real issues. I feel though they need to get the 4g upgrades moving along much faster... as 3.5g is putting them very behind. In DT where 4g towers have been upgraded, it's BLAZING fast.. Was shocked as it's not LTE.

On a Billing side, I LOVE knowing my bill will always be 40.00 a month.. (I have the Holiday/Wish 40 plan). Even at 50.00 it's a great deal.



Gone
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said by koreyb:

In DT where 4g towers have been upgraded, it's BLAZING fast.. Was shocked as it's not LTE.

Yeah, sometimes if you're lucky withe dual channel HSPA T-Mobile network can produce some impressive results over in the US, 20Mbit/s real-world or so.

Then again, I pulled 50Mbit/s over Rogers LTE on my SGS3 in Niagara Falls earlier today. I was getting high 40s in St. Catharines about an hour before. That's faster than my goddamn wired Internet connection at home.

funny

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reply to Gone

said by Gone:

said by funny:

the self delusion that foreign ownership WILL translate into lower prices continues....what idiot company would take vastly lower profits when it can co-exist and make its share holders oddles a cash is beyond me.

You don't win market share with the same prices as everyone else. Furthermore, there is plenty of money to be paid in the wireless market at lower prices than the Big 3 so long as a company has pockets for long-term outlook and investment.

The fact that the floodgates are open to foreign investment drastically changes the dynamics of the wireless market in this country. Orascom could built out a full national network and charge 25% less than the Big 3 for similar and/or better plans and still make out like a bandit once the debt begins to mature. The key is waiting for that debt to mature. A small Canadian startup can't do that. One of the largest international wireless companies in the world can.

lol ya seen the price a gas at your pumps lately?
is there a load a difference between broad band in the usa? The supposed free market people ....

all your gonna get is a bunch a greedy companies sink there teeth in and then sit back raking in the cash. MARK my words it wont lead to cheaper net it will lead to more restricted use internet

AND whom are you going to protest or whine about when the ISP is located 1000 miles or more outside of canada?
NO really what ya gonna do then ....

gone on every isp is the days you could run servers your selves
its against terms , no wonder they have to outsource ...no one can do any learning on the cheap any more.

gone are the days of no caps you will never see the big boys go unlimited its just been too much money and any new corporation and its shareholders all they want is a piece a the action ...

OHHH yes for a small time you will get a novis/shaw style fight until the novis is wiped out and hte big corporation can resume crazy prices. THAT ONE battle will tell you what will happen after a small outfit is rumbled to death....no large corporation is gonna barely make money to make you happy. UNLESS IT IS FORCED TOO.

go google the reasons why liberals brought in that foreign ownership stuff. ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF and quit listening to americans they just trying to pull a scam to get themselves some of our money.

xtachx

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reply to BliZZardX

said by BliZZardX:

Good news. They don't have any excuses for poor service anymore, they have been underwhelming up to now. I want to see them tear up this market.

Wind was actually one of the worst providers I have ever tried. Hopefully, now with Lacavera out of the picture, they can stop pretending they are "canadian", and actually provide some better service.

However, mark my words, in 2014, Rogers will buy Wind. Orascom wants out of canada, and focus on markets like italy and russia.
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Gone
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Someone will buy Wind, but it won't be Rogers.



infamouskid

join:2007-01-24
North York, ON

reply to bt
i dont see vimpel/orascom selling out.
these guys are here for the long game.
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xtachx

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said by infamouskid:

i dont see vimpel/orascom selling out.
these guys are here for the long game.

Vimpelcom has grouped its markets into several classes. Wind canada falls in the same class as their south east asia and africa markets. Now they are planning to sell south asia and africa and upgrade italy and russia to LTE.

Orascom also said that they want to get out of canada and vimpelcom indirectly said that. Wind canada for them is a bottomless pit, and why should they invest more, if they cant see an ROI.

However, I might be wrong in assuming that they will sell wind. But, one thing is for sure, if wind does not buy any 700 spectrum, they will be up for sale. In fact I think, wind will be up for sale before end 2013.
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infamouskid

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North York, ON

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i really don't see that happening.
with the way things are looking now wind is in a position to buy up the other smaller guys. they already have 600k subs.
the only time they would sell is if they are not gaining anything in market right now. but as long as they continue to grow each quarter there is no reason to sell.
they just had their best quarter and their sub base size has grown by more then 50% in the last year. now they are going for full control.
i would say this is more of a strategic move to deepen their pockets for some ammunition against the incumbents. i mean this is the same company who had their CEO say "We will make pain, and they will suffer" in a live interview. that sounds more like they want payback for what happened when they opened doors rather then them wanting to sell.
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cog_biz_user
i ruin threads apparently

join:2011-04-19
Hamilton, ON

reply to bt

said by bt:

Deal requires regulatory approval, but it would see Orascom assume full 99.3% ownership.

Oh boy, just what we need, more ammo for RoBellUs to petition the CRTC to kick Wind out...

xtachx

join:2005-11-19
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reply to infamouskid

said by infamouskid:

they just had their best quarter

No they didnt.

i mean this is the same company who had their CEO say "We will make pain, and they will suffer" in a live interview

He has been fired as of 2 days ago.
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infamouskid

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North York, ON

i was reffering to mr sawaris
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bt

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said by cog_biz_user:

Oh boy, just what we need, more ammo for RoBellUs to petition the CRTC to kick Wind out...

The rules changed since then, it doesn't provide them any ammo at all.

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