| is TSI getting obsolete? 1) Rogers and Bell are both offering (mostly to new homes) crazy speeds over fiber that you can't get with TSI.
2) Rogers non-fiber speeds are 10x faster than TSI for upload (5x for downlaod).
I understand that the reason TSI can exist is because the big corporations are forced to allow re-sail by some anti monopoly legal thing. (and for reasons like Bell was once built on tax dollars)
So can this legal thing be applied to the faster speeds?
Is TSI pursuing this?
What is the legal/technical/financial limitation?
Is TSI SOL?
(We really don't want to abandon TSI, so give us some hope TSI)
p.s. TSI, thanks for resisting Voltage. (it's funny until you get shocked) |
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resa1983Premium
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North York, ON
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| said by underubb :1) Rogers and Bell are both offering (mostly to new homes) crazy speeds over fiber that you can't get with TSI. Which is only available in select locations right now. Who knows, things may change.
said by underubb :2) Rogers non-fiber speeds are 10x faster than TSI for upload (5x for downlaod).
I understand that the reason TSI can exist is because the big corporations are forced to allow re-sail by some anti monopoly legal thing. (and for reasons like Bell was once built on tax dollars)
So can this legal thing be applied to the faster speeds?
Is TSI pursuing this?
What is the legal/technical/financial limitation?
Is TSI SOL? Currently waiting on a decision from the CRTC to force Rogers to provide them to TSI/non-agg TPIA providers. Its been in play since November 2012. If you want a summary, I have one here:
»dl.dropbox.com/u/9038867/Rogers/CRTC.html
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 TSI MartinPremium
join:2006-02-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:23 | reply to underubb
Concerning speeds on Cable, we are currently waiting on CRTC rulings.
As for DSL we can offer up to 25/10 if your residence qualifies for it.
I wouldn't say were obsolete.
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 eksterHi there.
join:2010-07-16
Lachine, QC
kudos:1 | reply to underubb
Last time I looked at Bell, their caps are making those new speeds obsolete. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to underubb
Bell/Rogers don't offer unlimited. TekSavvy does. I can use my 25/10 connection as much as I want and never have to worry about bankruptcy.
TekSavvy offers non-fiber upstream speeds of 10 Mbps, so I don't know where you get your "Rogers is 10x faster" thing from.
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 AkFubarAdmittedly, A Teksavvy Fan
join:2005-02-28
Toronto CAN.
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said by ekster:Last time I looked at Bell, their caps are making those new speeds obsolete.
Those caps should be obsolete too! 
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 Dones
join:2008-02-14
Toronto, ON | reply to underubb
I wouldn't mind paying for fibre, but I don't think everyone's going to pay $225 a month for it.
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said by underubb :p.s. TSI, thanks for resisting Voltage. (it's funny until you get shocked)
Huh? TSI resisting Voltage? I must have missed something....Please fill me in OP.
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 jmckformerly 'shaded'
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON | reply to Dones
i'm pretty sure only 10 houses qualify for new rogers fiber services, it's basically only their for epeen and for people to think they're better than bell. |
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 TSI MarcPremium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:14 | reply to underubb
said by underubb :1) Rogers and Bell are both offering (mostly to new homes) crazy speeds over fiber that you can't get with TSI.
2) Rogers non-fiber speeds are 10x faster than TSI for upload (5x for downlaod).
I understand that the reason TSI can exist is because the big corporations are forced to allow re-sail by some anti monopoly legal thing. (and for reasons like Bell was once built on tax dollars)
So can this legal thing be applied to the faster speeds?
Is TSI pursuing this?
What is the legal/technical/financial limitation?
Is TSI SOL?
(We really don't want to abandon TSI, so give us some hope TSI)
p.s. TSI, thanks for resisting Voltage. (it's funny until you get shocked)
I dont think so. The reason we exist is because there is Market Power. i.e. not enough competition. Even if FTTP or fiber as you put it is pervasive... there would still be Market Power...
I asked the very same thing in my speech at the ISP Summit a few months back.
Here is my speech:
»blogs.teksavvy.com/2012/11/06/th···y-story/
In it I ask when FTTP access will get dealt with.
thanks on the Voltage stuff. tough pill for all of us.
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Teksavvy = unlimited bandwidth caps.....'nuff said |
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said by resa1983:...waiting on ... CRTC... Thank you both for the replies.
Is there some kind of deadline as to when the CRTC must make a decision by?
Is there guess as to how long it will take if the decision is in our favour for TSI to be able to offer said speeds? |
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said by ekster:Last time I looked at Bell, their caps are making those new speeds obsolete.
Yes I know unlimited TSI was sweet but some might suffer a 250GB cap just to have the faster speeds.
And if you are stuck on 0.8mbps up, you could never get over that cap in a month anyway(on the crazy assumption you only upload, no downloading)
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said by Guspaz:Bell/Rogers don't offer unlimited. TekSavvy does. I can use my 25/10 connection as much as I want and never have to worry about bankruptcy.
TekSavvy offers non-fiber upstream speeds of 10 Mbps, so I don't know where you get your "Rogers is 10x faster" thing from.
I was comparing cable(150/10) to cable(28/1) speeds as a lot of users are still stuck on a DSL(6/0.8) from Bell while other locations get fiber(175/175).
I would love to pay TSI for (25/10) but it's not offered here. |
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said by Dones:I wouldn't mind paying for fibre, but I don't think everyone's going to pay $225 a month for it.
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Yes that's a lot but if I wanted 10 up it would be $123 from rogers and $390 from from TSI (13 mlppp s) because the vdsl(25/10) is not offered here ... if you could do mlppp over TSI cable it would be $325. |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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said by underubb :said by resa1983:...waiting on ... CRTC... Thank you both for the replies. Is there some kind of deadline as to when the CRTC must make a decision by? Is there guess as to how long it will take if the decision is in our favour for TSI to be able to offer said speeds? If they were going to release it before teh UBB/AVP/CBB decision, I think it probably would have been released by now.
Its looking now like they msy be releasing it with the main decision, as its essentially requesting enforcement of speedmatching under that decision.
No clue how long it'd take TSI to offer. But Start got the decision Dec 21 for agg, and they've just started offering the new speeds. So, 3-4 weeks?
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Jaxom
join:2012-03-10
East York, ON | reply to underubb
Sounds like underubb is one of those that got caught pirating a horrible movie and blames everyone else. |
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Thanks for the Start example.
Do we expect the "main decision" sometime this year? |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| said by underubb :Do we expect the "main decision" sometime this year?
Could be any day now. But it's been "could be any day now" for a few months, so it doesn't necessarily mean it will be any day now. |
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Sanek
join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON | reply to underubb
Didn't TSI say it might take up to several months? |
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