Topic 'Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service' in forum 'Filesharing Software' - dslreports.com

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:24:39 EDT

AndrewW posted : The Mega indexing site, »mega-search.me/ , is back up and indexing Mega content. I guess they found a way around the Mega block. Filestube has had no problems so far with the Mega block. See here, »www.filestube.com/look_for.html?···&page=12

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:31:21 EDT

AndrewW posted : Hi David,

I've been using Google Chrome right from the start and had slow speed/stalling issues which have finally disappeared. Today's 1 gig upload was buttery smooth at 1.2 MB/sec throughout. I believe the earlier issues were upstream of me and not issues on my computer. It is not surprising that Mega had bandwidth issues handling the global flood of data of biblical proportions that hit their servers.

Speaking of which, if most of the uploaded files to Mega are infringing then the copyright police have a huge job ahead of them given that tens of millions of file have been uploaded (some 500 every second) with only 50 takedown requests implying a takedown rate of only one in a million files which are lottery odds basically. To keep up, the take down police would have to file 500 takedown requests a second which would seem to be nearly impossible or at least cost prohibitive. Even if only 10% of the files were infringing and they knew which ones they were, they would still have to take down about 180,000 files per hour 24/7. That is what is more commonly known as an exercise in futility.

On a side note, Kim Dotcom may have to be ever more vigilant as pertaining to his safety as a loose wire may be responsible for bringing down his chopper yesterday. Was this a accident or someone sending him a message?

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:33:00 EDT

Davy49 posted : Hello All,
I signed up for a 'free' account @ »mega.co.nz/ , it states the following in the 'help centre area under basics': " How do I install MEGA?
You do not need to install anything. MEGA is entirely browser based and works with all current major browsers. To unleash MEGA's full potential, we strongly urge you to use Google Chrome only."
I can atest to the fact that the software does indeed work MUCH better on google chrome, when trying to use it with ms internet explorer, I keep receiving a 'popup' stating due to HTML5 issue's with internet explorer, use the google chrome browser.
David

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:53:39 EDT

AndrewW posted : That 50 gigs sure is nice. I look forward to some of the other stuff that may be coming soon.

Apparently one of Mega's partners is working on an API app that would allow for the streaming of encrypted video through this service. If the thing works and they get their bandwidth issues sorted out then this could be really interesting. May get the copyright folks really worked up. Already Mega's inaugural video has been pulled (at least temporarily and is now restored after Kim filed a counterclaim against YouTube) from YouTube at the demand of one of the music rights groups(GEMA).

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 16:52:32 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : nopes. I'll just make an account with my gmail then. ok signed up with my gmail account email come in an instant. damn 50GB for free that is a lot.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:48:19 EDT

AndrewW posted : Although Mega seems to be a Mega hit with millions signing up, it would appear those living in North America are not as enthusiastic about the service. The top five countries using the service so far are Spain, Brazil, France, Netherlands & New Zealand with Germany pulling up fast. I wonder if spotty upload speeds in North America are to blame. I find that uploads start slow with frequent stalling but finish quite strong.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 27 Jan 2013 12:24:47 EDT

AndrewW posted :

said by TOPDAWG:

hell I never got my email after joining the site to click the link to start my account.

Did you finally get your confirmation e-mail? According to Kim Dotcom some mail services are blocking Mega's e-mails including Hotmail.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:34:45 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : I think it's more they want to cover their ass just a little bit too. Lets face it the guy would love to hurt the MPAA and RIAA all he could after what they did to him.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:22:29 EDT

AndrewW posted : Seriously? Ya, seriously.

If you have trouble understanding what I have written perhaps you may better understand what Arstechnica wrote on the subject when they stated, 'If Mega only sees encrypted data, which by definition is all completely unique, how then can they be "deduplicating" it? Is something fishy going on?'. See here, »arstechnica.com/business/2013/01···ryption/ , and Mega's response here, »t.co/lNWa1KCP . The Hacker News debate is here, »news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5084261 and has not been settled.

Note from Mega's response they suggest that this removal would only happen if by some very, very remote chance the SAME RANDOM 128 BIT KEY were used in the encryption process on the same file multiple times or if the encrypted file was moved to other folders or users. This suggests that deduplication by Mega would happen rarely.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Wed, 23 Jan 2013 05:14:55 EDT

komal posted :

said by AndrewW:

Initially I believed that everything uploaded was encrypted and Mega had no way of telling what it was since they did not retain any keys for decrypting. However it is difficult to see how this can be true when Mega states it will delete your upload if it detects that your uploaded file has already been uploaded by someone else at which point you will have access to someone else's upload instead of the file you uploaded. How can they determine if the files are identical if they do not have the encryption keys?

What? Seriously?

You'd do it the exact same was as if the file wasn't encrypted, you'd compare it to another file.

Realistically, its done with hashes.

But I just wanted to point out what you're saying doesn't make any sense.

An encrypted file is just as unique as an unecrypted file.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:35:23 EDT

AndrewW posted : That's great to hear. You inspired me to try to upload a 200 MB file. It started uploading at about 400KB/sec and slowly went up to about 1 MB/sec, stalled for about a minute and then resumed at 1.2 MB/sec until the upload was finished. Looks like there is hope for this service after all.

Keep us posted on how it goes with your upload.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 21:44:15 EDT

habskilla posted : Looks like they got their bandwidth issues sorted out. I'm uploading files at a steady 1.2MB/s. I'll create a 10 GB file and upload it tonight.
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 19:37:52 EDT

sandman_1 posted : Thank god for those linux distros and file lockers everywhere to store them on. :D

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:52:21 EDT

pb5k posted : Why is that? I lose nothing for signing up except for a few moments of my time. If they do improve, I'll have another place to store non-essential junk. Like linux distros. Yeah. :D
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:28:58 EDT

sandman_1 posted : Wow, what a "Mega" fail on their part. I feel bad for you guys that signed up.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:54:52 EDT

imtim83 posted :

said by AndrewW:

Update: I have finally been able to upload a file at a whopping 36.9 KB/sec meaning it would take over 3 days to upload a 10 GB file.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:47:02 EDT

AndrewW posted : Update: I have finally been able to upload a file at a whopping 36.9 KB/sec meaning it would take over 3 days to upload a 10 GB file.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:22:47 EDT

AndrewW posted :

said by habskilla:

Wonder what would happen here?

Create a dummy 10 GB file and name it The Dark Knight Rises (2012).rar

Will that get deleted?

Great idea but first you have to be able to upload something which I haven't as of yet been able to do even with a small text file. Still wondering how they are able to identify what has been uploaded without allegedly being able to decrypt it.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:20:30 EDT

AndrewW posted :

said by sandman_1:

Have any of you read the privacy policy and ToS yet? Doesn't look like your personal info is exactly private or safe.

Also on top of that, they can terminate your service, delete your files (even if they may be legit/legal), and you are responsible for users who may have your key.

quote:
We reserve the right to remove data alleged to be infringing without prior notice, at our sole discretion, and without liability to you. In appropriate circumstances, we will will also terminate your account if you are determined to be a repeat infringer. Our designated copyright agent for notice of alleged copyright infringement is:

quote:
43. We reserve the right to disclose data and other information as required by law.

I read the TOS and I must say it is not very encouraging if you really have privacy concerns or want to have totally reliable backup.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:57:34 EDT

imtim83 posted :

said by habskilla:

Wonder what would happen here?

Create a dummy 10 GB file and name it The Dark Knight Rises (2012).rar

Will that get deleted?

Great idea! Someone should try it.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:52:59 EDT

habskilla posted : Wonder what would happen here?

Create a dummy 10 GB file and name it The Dark Knight Rises (2012).rar

Will that get deleted?
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:38:54 EDT

sandman_1 posted : I just don't see the value in it, considering. I could probably get a file locker much cheaper, if I wanted to, somewhere else, if I just wanted to share with my buddies. RAR encrypt it, reame it to something very obscure, send link and password to buddies, done. Or do same and upload to Usenet and send buddy nzb with rar password.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:24:46 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : yeah that has been talked about. What I want to know if the files are so called encrypted how do they know WTF you uploaded?

Really all you got to do is just give the keys to people you know or on a site then just encrypt the file itself before you upload it and put that key on the site or give it to your buddy's.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:33:16 EDT

sandman_1 posted : Have any of you read the privacy policy and ToS yet? Doesn't look like your personal info is exactly private or safe.

Also on top of that, they can terminate your service, delete your files (even if they may be legit/legal), and you are responsible for users who may have your key.

quote:
We reserve the right to remove data alleged to be infringing without prior notice, at our sole discretion, and without liability to you. In appropriate circumstances, we will will also terminate your account if you are determined to be a repeat infringer. Our designated copyright agent for notice of alleged copyright infringement is:

quote:
43. We reserve the right to disclose data and other information as required by law.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:15:03 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : hell I never got my email after joining the site to click the link to start my account. Interesting on the file thing that is one thing that got them the first time they would not remove the copyright file but just the link to it then make it available again when someone tried to upload it again.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:12:41 EDT

AndrewW posted :

said by Bananafarmer:

i got registered fine, havnt attempted an upload as yet.

i hear reports of a lot of infringing material already online on the service. will be an interesting watch.

I've seen some of these early reports as well. I believe the reports so far are by alarmists in the copyright protection business and of questionable validity. For large scale infringing to be occurring the first thing that needs to happen is the ability to upload files to Mega. Since I can't even upload a 900 byte text file as of now, it is hard to believe that any infringing is going on at present.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:09:55 EDT

AndrewW posted : Initially I believed that everything uploaded was encrypted and Mega had no way of telling what it was since they did not retain any keys for decrypting. However it is difficult to see how this can be true when Mega states it will delete your upload if it detects that your uploaded file has already been uploaded by someone else at which point you will have access to someone else's upload instead of the file you uploaded. How can they determine if the files are identical if they do not have the encryption keys?

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:30:21 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : but being as everything is uploaded encrypted can kim and crew even tell if someone uploads copyrighted work? If that is the case I look for them to get sued by the government again and saying CP pervs are using the serve.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:47:06 EDT

Bananafarmer posted : i got registered fine, havnt attempted an upload as yet.

i hear reports of a lot of infringing material already online on the service. will be an interesting watch.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:20:08 EDT

Rojo posted : No. I shut down and lost interest.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:29:10 EDT

AndrewW posted :

said by Rojo:

Registered (finally) OK. Logged in (finally) OK.

Tried to upload a test file around 400MB. Said free account is limited to 50MB. And it didn't like my browser.

Tried uploading the same file with Firefox. Didn't object to the browser or size this time, but the upload failed anyway.

They keep pushing Chrome as the only acceptable browser. Hope all this is just start up pains.

I finally got past the cogs turning in Chrome when trying to load the Mega site! Unfortunately when I tried to upload a 900 Byte test file, it stalled at 0% uploaded and infinity as the estimated remaining time. Next time I will try something smaller like a 10 Byte file. Were you able to load your test file at last?

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:57:41 EDT

AndrewW posted : Rather than they, it looks like one guy is going after Kim by trying to cut off Kim's access to any payment system. I doubt this guy will be successful in shutting down Mega. Mega and even Megaupload's business models are/were both sound from a copyright infringement perspective. Remember it was Kim's alleged extracurricular activity which got him and some of his pals into trouble the first time around.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:34:30 EDT

TOPDAWG posted : wow they wasted no time going after him again. After spending so many crazy millions to go after this guy the industry can not afford to let him win. They spent so much going after him and making sure it was huge news so if they lose it will set them back big time in their eyes.

»torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-mega-an···-130121/

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:12:10 EDT

THZNDUP posted : Figured a pic is worth a slow web site or a thousand words which ever comes first........

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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:06:46 EDT

signmeuptoo posted : Where is the pricing?

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:49:43 EDT

Rojo posted : Registered (finally) OK. Logged in (finally) OK.

Tried to upload a test file around 400MB. Said free account is limited to 50MB. And it didn't like my browser.

Tried uploading the same file with Firefox. Didn't object to the browser or size this time, but the upload failed anyway.

They keep pushing Chrome as the only acceptable browser. Hope all this is just start up pains.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:31:27 EDT

AndrewW posted : I'm in the same boat right now. When I tried to create a folder within Mega, it completely stalled my session. Since I closed and then reopened my browser, I have been unable to log back in. Worse yet through Chrome I get only the cogs turning when trying to load the site. Through Mozilla, it just stalls when I try to log in using my newly created credentials. Hopefully it will become usable in the not too distant future.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:44:31 EDT

MSauk posted : Well the site loads at least, but I still can't actually log in.

I was able to register last night at around 2:30am MST, but since then I was able to actually load the website.

It is 4:44pm MST and still not able to log in to see the actual backside of it
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:44:21 EDT

AndrewW posted : Eureka! Success at last! After a couple of dozen tries, I finally managed to get through to the Mega site and register an account.

Now I would like to know how exactly do they collect “entropy from your mouse movements and keystroke timings”?

BTW, I enjoyed the singers as well!

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:39:05 EDT

pb5k posted : I used mega.co.nz. The issue right now is just very high demand, so access is going to be intermittent. They just weren't ready for the demand. Probably should have spent more money on server capacity and less on the Opening ceremony! :D (I liked the Maori singers though).
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:26:32 EDT

AndrewW posted :

said by pb5k:

Yeah, it took a few reloads but it did come up. Just registered an account. The site advises against my browser (Palemoon 15.4) because of HTML5 support.

(edit: added screenshot) Has a distinct Dropbox-y feel to it, but is said to be more secure because of encryption. I won't upload anything for a while to avoid slamming them. :)

Which website are you using? When I check mega.co.nz here »www.websitedown.info/mega.co.zn , it tells me that the site is down for everyone.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:18:08 EDT

mmainprize posted : Many have joined the new site
»www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20···a-launch

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"They can't blame me for the actions of third parties. Megaupload was a dual-use technology. You can use it for good things, and you can use it for bad things. If someone sends something illegal in an envelope through your postal service, you don't shut down the post office. If someone speeds with the car he just bought, you don't go to the car manufacturer and say, hey, we're shutting you down."

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:06:22 EDT

pb5k posted : Yeah, it took a few reloads but it did come up. Just registered an account. The site advises against my browser (Palemoon 15.4) because of HTML5 support.

(edit: added screenshot) Has a distinct Dropbox-y feel to it, but is said to be more secure because of encryption. I won't upload anything for a while to avoid slamming them. :)

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:42:12 EDT

Alcohol posted : Was working fine yesterday, i got in within the first hour. Now it seems to be completely down due to demand.
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:38:02 EDT

Bolt Pride posted : I got it to work with both FF18 and Chrome with a little luck.
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Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:29:36 EDT

det427 posted : Works for me: Windows 8; IE 10

Had to reload to get it to work

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:49:15 EDT

pb5k posted : Doesn't work in Chrome or Firefox right now, regardless of HTTPS.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:35:33 EDT

AndrewW posted : I have Google Chrome, but when I follow your link and try to go to »mega.co.nz/ , I get a SSL connection error (Error 107).

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:25:43 EDT

freakout9903 posted : Open up Google Chrome, download it if you don't have it. Then go here: »mega.co.nz . Enjoy :)

https://

^^the part everyone seems to be forgetting about.

Re: Kim Dotcom's New Mega Service

Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:44:12 EDT

pb5k posted : I haven't tried since yesterday. Kim's twitter posts were showing the site getting SLAMMED, which is to be expected with all the press around it.
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