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DKS
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reply to Draiman

Re: Attic flooring

said by Draiman:

If there haven't been any issues in over 40-50 years so far there's no reason to think they will start now. If that's not enough time to know nothing is!

If you only did the new insulation last year, the last 40 years are no measure at all.
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Draiman
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In case you didn't hear or understand the first time. Please refrain from derailing the thread with off topic stuff. You should know better then this!
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Draiman
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Chinabound
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This isn't the For Sale forum.



Draiman
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Please refrain from derailing the thread with off topic stuff. You should know better then this!



Chinabound
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Re: Attic flooring

said by Draiman:

I just ordered the 5/8" CDX Fir/Spruce Plywood @$25.40/ea and they are ripping it into 2' x 4' pieces (quarters) and delivering it at no charge tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone for the help. That concludes this thread.

PS: Mods can lock it up!

Once again, this isn't the For Sale forum.


Draiman
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I just ordered the 5/8" CDX Fir/Spruce Plywood @$25.40/ea and they are ripping it into 2' x 4' pieces (quarters) and delivering it at no charge tomorrow. If anyone wants pictures when it's finished let me know via IM.

Thanks to everyone for the help. That concludes my involvement in this thread.

PS: Feel free to discuss this more as it might pertain to someone else searching Google about this same thing. I'm all set on tips, advice, etc. on my project though.
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robbin
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reply to DKS

said by DKS:

said by robbin:

said by DKS:

You may also have moisture/condensation problems. You appear to have no soffit venting, with the insulation plugging that air space up. I would describe that attic as a mould farm just waiting to happen. Attics have air circulation for a reason. That seems to be a dead air space.

You should research conditioned or unventilated attics. It has become more popular in recent years.

In my environment, it's a non-starter. Attic air circulation and insulation are done for a reason. It actually cools the house.

I'm not going to Google it for you but you obviously have no insight into new thinking regarding conditioned, unventilated attics. It can be done in all climates although the climate will determine the proper design.


tp0d
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reply to Draiman
wow, my brain hurts reading this thread..

sad to see the convo goto shit like this.. xcal, kudos on keepin it together.. and good luck with your project, 1/2" ply is the good choice.

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Msradell
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reply to sempergoofy

said by sempergoofy:

A system to consider:
»www.infiniteattic.com/

while those seem real need at 1st glance, they could be a major source of problems. Most engineered trusses are not designed to support extra weight (except for sheet rock and insulation) on the bottom stringers. Using the system without having approval of the designers of the trusses could lead to failure of the trusses.


Draiman
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They delivered the flooring yesterday. Those are ~2'x4' pieces of 5/8" CDX plywood. That's most of it minus the 12 pieces I moved into the house to install this week-end.


Draiman
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I didn't get the first of three sections completely finished but it's coming along nicely. I put around 500 lbs of books onto a section and it didn't do anything. This section is around 7' x 12' the next is 7' x 22' and the last is 14' x 14'.
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garys_2k
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Looking good! Are you using screws to hold down the flooring?



Draiman
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said by garys_2k:

Looking good! Are you using screws to hold down the flooring?

Yup! I used 4 screws on each joist and there is 4 joists per section so 16 screws per 2' x 4' section.
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ImpldConsent
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reply to Draiman
Looks good and familiar. I did similar attic conversion over our garage in 2003 when my youngest was born. The only difference is I did place insulation over my unheated garage and made the attic space heated/cooled (and 2 x electrical outlets, overhead light and networked ... fun, fun).
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lazidazi

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reply to Draiman

Re: Insulating Attic

Okay, now - please don't anyone get fussy with me for asking an ignorant question.

RE Xcal's pictures, insulating attic with rigid foam board on the bottom edge of roof rafters: When one does this, is insulation at/between the ceiling joists then not needed? Is the rigid insulation at the rafters all that's needed for the attic? [including, of course, what he's done on the gable ends, et al]

Critsmcgee

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said by lazidazi :

Okay, now - please don't anyone get fussy with me for asking an ignorant question.

RE Xcal's pictures, insulating attic with rigid foam board on the bottom edge of roof rafters: When one does this, is insulation at/between the ceiling joists then not needed? Is the rigid insulation at the rafters all that's needed for the attic? [including, of course, what he's done on the gable ends, et al]

You use fiberglass insulation under the rigid board to create a higher r-value insulation while moving the thermal envelope. R-19 fiberglass is the most common under the rigid board which is R-13 for a 2" thickness for a total of R-32. If you can get more then R-19 under the rigid board that's great. Some people use foam instead of fiberglass.

robbin
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reply to lazidazi

said by lazidazi :

Okay, now - please don't anyone get fussy with me for asking an ignorant question.

RE Xcal's pictures, insulating attic with rigid foam board on the bottom edge of roof rafters: When one does this, is insulation at/between the ceiling joists then not needed? Is the rigid insulation at the rafters all that's needed for the attic? [including, of course, what he's done on the gable ends, et al]

This type of discussion should probably have a thread of it's own but in the meantime I will quote what I posted to another member earlier in this thread.

said by robbin:

You should research conditioned or unventilated attics. It has become more popular in recent years.


Critsmcgee

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reply to Draiman

Re: Attic flooring

Here's the basic idea.
»www.finehomebuilding.com/PDF/Fre···0088.pdf
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