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HiVolt
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Re: Rogers Buying WIND Mobile?

said by dirtyjeffer:

said by LastDon:

The canadian market is horrible.

no, the Canadian market is geographically huge, and population wise, tiny...two very bad things for a wireless company.

And of course this doesn't mean anything, as no Canadian provider covers the whole country.

»www.rogers.com/business/nb/en/sm···overage/

They cover probably 90% of the population with what they have... isn't 80% of the population that lives within 100 miles of the US border?
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Gone
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The only place Rogers doesn't have a realistic HSPA network is Sask.



dirtyjeffer
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said by HiVolt:

And of course this doesn't mean anything, as no Canadian provider covers the whole country.

»www.rogers.com/business/nb/en/sm···overage/

They cover probably 90% of the population with what they have... isn't 80% of the population that lives within 100 miles of the US border?

i didn't mean every square mile of territory...but to cover 90% of the population is still a lot of land area, for a measly 25 million people...in the US, you can blanket California, New York (state) or Texas with very decent coverage, for a fraction of the price, and have roughly the same or more customers...38 million people in California, 26 million in Texas and 19.5 million in New York state.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by Gone:

The only place Rogers doesn't have a realistic HSPA network is Sask.

that is because Saskatchewan uses a Crown Corp for their services, so they simply roam on SaskTel mobility's network.


Gone
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I'm pretty sure Sasktel is the same as Bell and Telus and runs an IS-96 network, not a GSM network. The GSM coverage in Sask is Rogers' alone. I suspect the lack of Rogers HSPA may be due to bandwidth availability and spectrum ownership within the province.

Whether or not Rogers roams on Sasktel's own HSPA network is something that I do not know. I suspect they don't considering the coverage in the province.



dirtyjeffer
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Sasktel has UMTS/HSDPA+ with 4G being deployed as we speak (official launch is coming soon).



Gone
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Right. They don't run a GSM network, which is the only coverage that Rogers has in Sask outside of Saskatoon and Regina.



shaner
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reply to dirtyjeffer

said by dirtyjeffer:

said by HiVolt:

And of course this doesn't mean anything, as no Canadian provider covers the whole country.

»www.rogers.com/business/nb/en/sm···overage/

They cover probably 90% of the population with what they have... isn't 80% of the population that lives within 100 miles of the US border?

i didn't mean every square mile of territory...but to cover 90% of the population is still a lot of land area, for a measly 25 million people...in the US, you can blanket California, New York (state) or Texas with very decent coverage, for a fraction of the price, and have roughly the same or more customers...38 million people in California, 26 million in Texas and 19.5 million in New York state.

Look at all the empty territory in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta that IS covered. There are very few people actually living outside of Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, Saskatoon and Winnipeg. Yet the network coverage in those provinces alone is extremely extensive with a lot of build cost and a long term ROI. That coverage is there because big corporate energy customers demand it, but seriously, some of the towers in the boonies may go DAYS before they're actually connected to a device.
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dirtyjeffer
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said by shaner:

Look at all the empty territory in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta that IS covered. There are very few people actually living outside of Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, Saskatoon and Winnipeg. Yet the network coverage in those provinces alone is extremely extensive with a lot of build cost and a long term ROI. That coverage is there because big corporate energy customers demand it, but seriously, some of the towers in the boonies may go DAYS before they're actually connected to a device.

exactly my point...i mean, look how long it took for a tower to get installed in Grand Bend?...the reason it took so long was due to the seasonal demand for service there, and why for the first few years it was a mobile tower (COW), not permanent.
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TLS2000
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said by shaner:

Look at all the empty territory in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta that IS covered. There are very few people actually living outside of Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, Saskatoon and Winnipeg. Yet the network coverage in those provinces alone is extremely extensive with a lot of build cost and a long term ROI. That coverage is there because big corporate energy customers demand it, but seriously, some of the towers in the boonies may go DAYS before they're actually connected to a device.

One of the advantages of the prairies is that they don't actually need a lot of towers to cover the whole map.

That said, I had major problems with reception on the Trans Canada through Manitoba and Saskatchewan with Rogers.
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