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ArrayList
netbus developer
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Brighton, MA

why do we keep giving these guys a mic?

Seriously, why do you guys keep publicizing their BS? It's BS. Don't share it.


FFH
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said by ArrayList:

Seriously, why do you guys keep publicizing their BS? It's BS. Don't share it.

Perhaps you should read the full report before deciding they have nothing worthwhile to say. It is much more in depth and nuanced than the BBR headline implies.

»www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-Aus···2013.pdf

Start on page 49 for the spectrum section.

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ArrayList
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Yes, I should read the shill report. _

the only accurate thing is that ISPs do not have adequate infrastructure. We all agree that they need to do the right thing and improve it. They can skip a few generations and get on with the fiber.


michieru
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So I have read the report section for spectrum crunch and they are implying that in order to fix the issues with spectrum the industry will need to utilize more efficient methods such as LTE and re purpose spectrum from older technologies to improve service in very populated areas.

The only fear they have is that the continued growth of wireless devices that are attached to cellphone networks is not slowing down and the current technology would not be able to keep up with user demand. So in order to fix the issue they suggest more spectrum and understand the differences between the kinds of bands that are good for building penetration and those that aren't.

Therefore the report does not seem crazy at all and at the very least the title of that chapter is misleading.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
reply to FFH
Knowing that Deloitte probably charges no less then $400/hr for their services and probably closer to $800/hr for partner work, I want to know who paid for this "report" before I make any decisions concerning its "accuracy".


FFH
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said by Skippy25:

Knowing that Deloitte probably charges no less then $400/hr for their services and probably closer to $800/hr for partner work, I want to know who paid for this "report" before I make any decisions concerning its "accuracy".

They have thousands of clients. Looking forward reports to 2013 like this are shared costs across their whole clientele list. It wasn't tailored for 1 client. You don't get to see those - only the client does.
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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
Thanks for the lesson.

I can tell you 1 thing for sure. They wont be putting man hours on a report that they are not directly charging a client for. They may have pooled a few together, but this was done with intent and it was determined whom was paying, a client code was setup and staffing was determined before a single minute was put on it.


FFH
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said by Skippy25:

I can tell you 1 thing for sure. They wont be putting man hours on a report that they are not directly charging a client for.

Of course they will. It is part of the PR/marketing/advertising budget used to get new clients that all companies budget for.
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A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
I guess my 22+ years at one of the big 4 firms has taught me nothing and you know better.


michieru
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Miami, FL
reply to Skippy25
When it matches the opinion and views of this site in terms of moving over to LTE and improving spectral efficiency I think this report should be applauded instead of demonized. So who ever influenced them with cash it was in our favor.

komal

join:2003-02-16

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reply to Skippy25
said by Skippy25:

I guess my 22+ years at one of the big 4 firms has taught me nothing and you know better.

I strongly doubt you have any work experience at a Big 4 firm if you didn't even know that they frequently publish market research in order to make the news.

Dark is right.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
Think what you will but after 22+ years and I am yet to see one released by my firm nor hear about it in a company announcement. But as I said it simply could be that he knows better than me as I would have no interest in any of them and would probably forget them as soon as I heard about them.

Regardless, once money is involved any report is tainted as it is either tailored to those paying for it or it is tailored towards the ones they think they will get the most for it. Just like doing surveys.