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to NormanS
Re: Pond scum subspeciessaid by NormanS:said by silbaco:Other utilities should not be on poles either. It's just an attempt to save money that doesn't really work. If you don't own the poles, then you have to pay to use them. Every time a storm blows in you have to role trucks to fix the downed lines. Their customers have to suffer service outages. They should just do it right the first time and put the cables in the ground. Haven't had a storm blow shit off the poles, here, in more than 50 years. Had buried shit severely messed up in San Francisco twice since 1906. That's because you live in one of the most temperate climates in the United States, not Tornado Alley. Your storms are probably nothing compared to what we get here. |
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34764170 (banned) join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON |
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said by elios:if you think every other ISP in the world isnt selling user data your dead wrong Doesn't change what I said. The connection is subsidized. That isn't the case for other ISPs and even if the other ISPs are selling your data they're not going to pass any savings on to you the customer as a result of doing so. |
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said by silbaco:You misinterpreted my comment. I was talking about upstream bandwidth the entire time. No, I did not. |
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SimbaSevenI Void Warranties join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT ·StarLink
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to 34764170
said by 34764170:Yes, they're rolling out an all fibre network but they're not thinking long term. Um.. Yes they are. Copper can't push the speeds Fiber can. Copper has limits. Fiber, technically, does not. |
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CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picture Premium Member join:2011-08-11 NYC |
to NormanS
Wow, that's nice. I am paying $19.95/mo for 3 Mbps. The 15 Mbps is 34.99/mo. |
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silbaco Premium Member join:2009-08-03 USA |
to morbo
Fixing lines is costly. Replacing poles is even more costly. As the poles continue to age in many places, companies are being reminded how stupid it was not to bury the cables. |
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said by SimbaSeven:said by 34764170:Yes, they're rolling out an all fibre network but they're not thinking long term. Um.. Yes they are. Copper can't push the speeds Fiber can. Copper has limits. Fiber, technically, does not. Do I have to put sarcasm tags around it for you? The comment was making fun of the other thing he said. |
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said by tschmidt:If I had my druthers we would implement some type of wholesale fiber first-mile implementation. Various service providers would rent strands or lambdas (colors) to deliver end user service. Primary and secondary power would be at the top of the pole, multi-fiber cable underneath and all the existing legacy cable, phone, cable, fire alarm, etal removed. That would be the most ideal situation. |
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to morbo
Where did you have electric power companies not fixed downed lines? I have never seen that action taken after a storm. |
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NormanSI gave her time to steal my mind away MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA TP-Link TD-8616 Asus RT-AC66U B1 Netgear FR114P
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to sticks435
said by sticks435:That's because you live in one of the most temperate climates in the United States, not Tornado Alley. Your storms are probably nothing compared to what we get here. But we have earthquakes up the kazoo. With sufficient lateral displacement of the earth, you can kiss your buried utilities goodbye. What works in one place may fail in another. |
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silbaco Premium Member join:2009-08-03 USA |
silbaco
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2013-Jan-21 11:48 pm
If you are near the immediate fault line, then buried could be a problem. But that is a pretty insignificant amount of area.
Buried utilities have proven themselves over and over again. |
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NormanSI gave her time to steal my mind away MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA TP-Link TD-8616 Asus RT-AC66U B1 Netgear FR114P
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said by silbaco:If you are near the immediate fault line, then buried could be a problem. But that is a pretty insignificant amount of area. There is no "fault line". There multiple fault zones. Three of the big ones, nearby, are the San Andreas, the Hayward, and the Calaveras. There are hundreds of smaller ones. |
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