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Mr_Otis
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2013-Jan-22 8:49 am
MisnamedAren't all guns 'semi-automatic'? At least, all those that are not machine guns? Pull the trigger, gun fires. Pull the trigger, gun fires. Semi-automatic. |
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said by Mr_Otis :Aren't all guns 'semi-automatic'? At least, all those that are not machine guns? Pull the trigger, gun fires. Pull the trigger, gun fires. Semi-automatic. I believe a one shot musket would be semi-automatic as well considering you can reload it with powder, place the ball inside and fire it at a rate of about 1 shot every minute. So I guess no muskets are allowed to be displayed or pointed on TWC commercials either. (Well maybe not considering the definition is b of a firearm : able to fire repeatedly but requiring release and another pressure of the trigger for each successive shot) |
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to Mr_Otis
said by Mr_Otis :Aren't all guns 'semi-automatic'? At least, all those that are not machine guns? Pull the trigger, gun fires. Pull the trigger, gun fires. Semi-automatic. No, they're not. There are single-shot firearms of various kinds; single-action revolvers; magazine-fed bolt-action, pump and lever action firearms, etc. Double-action revolvers could be thought of as "semi-automatic," in that they operate as you describe, but they're not regarded as such. Jim |
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to Mr_Otis
Single Action Revolvers, Lever Action, Black Powder, and Pump Shotguns are not Semi-Automatic. |
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to kdwycha
Not true. If the ONLY action needed to reload and shoot again is pulling the trigger then it's Semi-Automatic. If you have to do anything else between rounds then it's not Semi-Automatic. |
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to kdwycha
I see what your mean. One shot every 60 seconds versus the 30 rounds Lanza fired off in 27 seconds. |
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to battleop
And the AR-15 isn't an "assault rifle". Regulators make up their own definitions. |
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But they are black and scary looking.... |
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zitch join:2002-07-08 Lafayette, LA |
to Mr_Otis
To be technical, the term "automatic"* in firearms refers to the how it loads the next cartridge** into the chamber. I believe it's short for "automatic loader", basically, most automatics (semi or fully) use either the recoil (most handguns and submachine guns) or taps into the hot gasses in the barrel (most automatic rifles) to mechanically eject the spent case and load the next cartridge into the chamber.
By this definition, a revolver is not "semi-automatic", as a revolver actually has multiple chambers (6 seems to be the most common) in a cylinder. Each shot happens because the next chamber is rotated into place behind the barrel before firing (usually is linked into the trigger, usually where pulling the trigger will bring back the hammer and turn the cylinder to line up the next chamber before dropping the hammer). In a revolver, each chamber has to be loaded "manually".
Other loading mechanisms, like lever- and pump-action, require manual operation to eject the spent casing and load the next cartridge from the magazine.
* Keep in mind that when I am referring to the term "automatic", I mean both semi- and fully- automatics. There is very little difference between the loading mechanisms between semi and fully automatic versions of the same weapon.
** "Cartridge" refers to the bullet/shots/slug, smokeless powder, primer, and the case holding the rest all together to be fired. |
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dnoyeBFerrous Phallus join:2000-10-09 Southfield, MI |
to jseymour
probably any gun that uses the power of the charge to assist reloading is semi-automatic?
Just wondering. Don't know much about guns. |
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KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
to Mr_Otis
Semi-Auto just means you have to pull the trigger again to shoot again. fully-auto is your basic bullet fire hose. However unlike Hollywood, you cannot fire a typical non mounted machine gun for a minutes. If I remember correctly, most fully automatic weapons will burn up a full mag in seconds. |
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to Wilsdom
Who cares what's its called, it fires 5.56 mm rounds and is magazine-fed. |
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NormanSI gave her time to steal my mind away MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA TP-Link TD-8616 Asus RT-AC66U B1 Netgear FR114P
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to Mr_Otis
said by Mr_Otis :Aren't all guns 'semi-automatic'? No. At least, all those that are not machine guns? Pull the trigger, gun fires. Pull the trigger, gun fires. Semi-automatic. I've got some firearms which will fire on the first trigger pull, but not on subsequent trigger pulls; not without some manual action between the trigger pulls. |
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to Terabit
said by Terabit:Who cares what's its called, it fires 5.56 mm rounds and is magazine-fed. And that is important ... how? What about 7.62x63mm and clip fed? What about 7.62x51mmR and magazine fed? |
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EGeezer Premium Member join:2002-08-04 Midwest |
to Mr_Otis
said by Mr_Otis :Aren't all guns 'semi-automatic'? At least, all those that are not machine guns? Pull the trigger, gun fires. Pull the trigger, gun fires. Semi-automatic. Try that with a single shot, lever or bolt action, or a single action revolver. Semi-automatic means self-loading and self-cocking after firing a round. |
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to EGeezer
Re: MisnamedVerify it on a different service for the needed site... enjoy and I refer this from Google.com . |
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to kdwycha
Uh, well no, muskets aren't semi-automatic. And a good musket marksman can easily fire 3 shots in 1 minute. |
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