 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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| Sun TV wants mandatory carriage Our own Faux News North claims it's losing money since they got bumped up to the higher tiers on Rogers and with that lost half their viewership (or was that it was so bad people stopped watching it), and is now petitioning the CRTC for mandatory carriage.
They like to point to CBC Newsworld , which has mandatory carriage and is getting 63c per subscriber vs 18c for them (and their own sister company in QC , VTL only gives them 9c).
Short story posted verbatim here :
A financially hobbled Sun News Network has asked the CRTC to force cable carriers to distribute the channel.
Currently Sun News isn’t a part of many analog or basic cable packages. In a filing first submitted to the CRTC last May, the Quebecor-owned network says Rogers’ decision to move it from channel 15 to channel 144 cut viewership in half.
Sun News proposes the CRTC grant the network mandatory distribution, which would obligate carriers to make the channel available on basic cable and boost the network’s beleaguered bottom line.
The filing points out that Sun News is now available in 5.1 million Canadian households, compared with 11.6 million for rival CBC News Network.
Between reduced reach and diminished viewership Sun News estimates it lost $17 million in 2012.
“Despite the strong thirst for news alternatives, Sun News has encountered enormous resistance from Canadian cable and satellite providers,” the filing says.
Sun TV’s proposal requests that along with mandatory distribution the network receive a fee of 18 cents per month from each cable subscriber. In Quebec that fee falls to nine cents per customer. The company feels those fees would turn a $17 million loss into a modest profit by 2014.
The report points out that CBC News Network receives 63 cents per month per customer.
“Should the cable and satellite providers choose to pass the full cost of Sun News to their customers, the financial impact on the basic service would be negligible,” the filing says.
The CRTC will consider applications from Sun News and several other specialty networks in a hearing scheduled for April 23.
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One more reason to "cut the cable" |
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Carriage fees seem to be the way of the future (as ad revenue is declining). It seems companies like Sun want to find way to force subscribers into paying the carriage fee.
Perhaps the CRTC should force it to be an a la carte channel and see if anyone subscribes.
Ideally a cableco would only have to charge $20/month for basic cable (to cover infrastructure costs etc) and provide the basic of Canadian channels (CTV, CBC etcc) and thats it. Then everything else should be a la cart.
It's gotten so complex with bundles (especially the trend of lumping in 1 or 2 good channels with 4 or 5 crappy channels) that its making it really expensive.
If cable doesn't trim the fat on their own, their in danger of being trimmed on their own. |
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 dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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London, ON | reply to elwoodblues
so if i am forced to carry CBC News Network, why is Sun News Network not forced as well?
honestly, i don't watch either, but fair is fair...either they both be made "standard" or they both go "optional". |
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 TLS2000Crazy CanuckPremium
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Mississauga, ON | reply to elwoodblues
Because it doesn't fit your political slant it's not news?
I'm with the people above me. If carriers are forced to carry Liberal news stations, why shouldn't they also be forced to carry a Conservative one?
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kudos:5 | reply to dirtyjeffer
said by dirtyjeffer:so if i am forced to carry CBC News Network, why is Sun News Network not forced as well?
honestly, i don't watch either, but fair is fair...either they both be made "standard" or they both go "optional".
Makes sense.
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I don't think any channels should have mandatory carriage, but as long as the competition has it, I gotta agree. The CRTC shouldn't be in the business of favouring one channel over another.
And this is coming from someone that can't stand the programming on SUN. |
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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Outside of "basic cable" the BDU's can offer ala carte. They don't because it's more profitable to "bundle".
Using the above example newsworld (bundled) gets 63c , but most carriage deals are if the channel is carried alone, the have to pay the channel half.
A company I used to work for got 25c a subscriber in a bundle, alone, $1.50!
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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HarperLand | reply to TLS2000
There is no slant here, I've watched their broadcasts on the website, its a joke, both content and production wise. |
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| said by elwoodblues:There is no slant here, I've watched their broadcasts on the website, its a joke, both content and production wise.
Right. Keep telling yourself that you don't have a political bias against it. At least someone will believe you.
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kudos:5 | reply to dirtyjeffer
said by dirtyjeffer:so if i am forced to carry CBC News Network, why is Sun News Network not forced as well?
honestly, i don't watch either, but fair is fair...either they both be made "standard" or they both go "optional".
The difference is that the CBC is our national public broadcaster with a formal mandate and accountability under the Broadcasting Act and Sun TV is a putrid pile of garbage.  |
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kudos:5 | said by Wolfie00:The difference is that the CBC is our national public broadcaster with a formal mandate and accountability under the Broadcasting Act and Sun TV is a putrid pile of garbage.
Or vice versa depending on your politics.
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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HarperLand | reply to TLS2000
Have you watched the turd the call Sun News and compared it to CBC/CTV, he'll even CP24 is better. |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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London, ON | reply to Wolfie00
said by Wolfie00:The difference is that the CBC is our national public broadcaster with a formal mandate and accountability under the Broadcasting Act and Sun TV is a putrid pile of garbage.
i can't believe you seriously just posted that nonsense.
the CBC does have better production capabilities...because we pay $1 Billion a year for it...other than that, it is simply a left shifted version of Sun News.
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Wolfie00My dog is an elitistPremium
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The mandate of the CBC to be the national public broadcaster has nothing to do with politics. |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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London, ON | said by Wolfie00:The mandate of the CBC to be the national public broadcaster has nothing to do with politics.
sure it doesn't.  |
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kudos:5 | If you're not aware of the Broadcasting Act or the mandate of the CBC then do some reading. |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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London, ON | said by Wolfie00:If you're not aware of the Broadcasting Act or the mandate of the CBC then do some reading.
whatever.
the same CBC that refuses FOI requests??...the same CBC that refuses to be accountable for the $1 Billion they get from Canadian taxpayers every year??...the same CBC that creatively edited a story to promote their anti-Harper agenda??
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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OK, then tell me why CTV Newsnet production is better, or even CHCH, with its all day news, neither get government funding.
Go over to the TVA website and you'll see shitty production values is typical for QMI.
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