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ArrayList
netbus developer
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

reply to IowaCowboy

Re: A better idea

I really don't know what TV has to do with Google Fiber.

ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1
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·Verizon FiOS

Youre right, it has NOTHING to do with it at all. Google only provides TV service over their fiber. sigh.

I know all you cord cutters are in denial, but fiber would NOT sell without TV service. Youre all a very small percentage of subscribers going internet only.

Verizon FioS performs poorly in areas where they dont have signed TV franchises.



ArrayList
netbus developer
Premium
join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL

I would pay whatever the real price was without TV. Many of us would.


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

reply to ITALIAN926
FiOS performs poorly in many areas, even with TV. Despite the common opinion around here, many people are simply happy with what they have. Verizon DSL performs for what they need. Why change?


xenophon

join:2007-09-17

VZ FIOS uses GPON, it appears Google is using Active Ethernet, so doesn't have the GPON issues...

»www.gfiberforum.com/forum/thread···-or-GPON


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1

reply to silbaco
Define "poor". They are approaching an overall 40% adoption rate, and thats not too shaby.


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

reply to xenophon
But neither GPON nor Active Ethernet will make a difference to the end user. They don't know the difference. To them, fiber is fiber.


silbaco

join:2009-08-03
USA

reply to ITALIAN926
That's not very good considering how long many of these markets have had FiOS. Even with the help of Sandy.

In the markets near me with fiber (not FiOS) the adoption rate over DSL is more than 40% and the fiber has been active for less time. The TV service is a major driving factor. The other being faster speeds for the same price.


mattmac

join:2011-03-27
West Palm Beach, FL

reply to silbaco
I don't understand the huge need for large amounts of bandwidth the house?I have 12 Mb with AT&T uverse it works fine for all my needs more bandwidth would be a waste!


ITALIAN926

join:2003-08-16
kudos:1

reply to silbaco
With 3, sometimes 4 TV providers, I think 40% is pretty good.



jfleni

@bhn.net

reply to ArrayList
Personally, I despise TV of any kind; I'd rather run out to the nearest Interstate and "moon" the traffic than watch TV! But most people do NOT feel that way, and that is that. I'm just happy that TV addiction makes the wonderful Internet possible.


eviljolly

join:2005-10-29
Houston, TX

reply to mattmac
Bandwidth isn't like water, or electricity. It isn't "wasted." In fact, in most cases, newer and faster equipment uses less power than old antiquated versions.

Any time you do an update, any time you upload a video, or download a large file, you're wasting seconds, minutes, or even hours waiting for this to happen.

Nothing is wasted by having more bandwidth, only less. The faster the internet gets as a whole, the more productive we can be at work, and the more fun we can have at home. Nobody likes waiting, and there's no reason we should have to. ISPs are currently making way more money than they should from the amount of bandwidth they give us.


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