I wish I didn't get physically ill when I traveled too. I could have been working a great gig if that wasn't the case.

So likely looking at atleast $10k
$2k test
$5k extra prep
$3k misc

So, when you say that customers want "the numbers after the name", that is very true. Its just as true when it comes to the education and experience portion of things as well.

And if you should fail?

So about $2k just to take the test.

So about $2k just to take the test.

get your ccie.
you'll never be without a job again. and you'll easily be able to make 6-figs.

q.

get your ccie.
you'll never be without a job again. and you'll easily be able to make 6-figs.

q.

I just wish there were schools that had prepped people to go into IT jobs.

I think that four years is enough time to take someone and turn them into world-class experts on a particular field. Four years of networking, four years of Sys Admin, four years of programming.

I don't understand.

I just wish there were schools that had prepped people to go into IT jobs.

I think that four years is enough time to take someone and turn them into world-class experts on a particular field. Four years of networking, four years of Sys Admin, four years of programming.

I don't understand.

"Higher education is approaching bubble status. The costs have risen rapidly, beyond the ability of most families to pay. Debt is being taken on at unprecedented levels and in an economic climate that is not providing the high-paying jobs necessary for that debt to be retired. At the same time, employers complain of a skills gap: the inability to hire employees with the skills needed to perform these new technologically demanding jobs."

http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/28/my-view-predictions-for-the-next-decades-of-education/?iref=storysearch

"Higher education is approaching bubble status. The costs have risen rapidly, beyond the ability of most families to pay. Debt is being taken on at unprecedented levels and in an economic climate that is not providing the high-paying jobs necessary for that debt to be retired. At the same time, employers complain of a skills gap: the inability to hire employees with the skills needed to perform these new technologically demanding jobs."

We need more trades and apprenticeship in tech IT and need move away from the Idea of 4 year+ degrees.

Also IT work should not be lumped into CS.

My oldest is 11.

I'll be hitting you up for information when my kids reach an age to prep for college.

Not everyone is graduating with 2k in student loan debt. 2k is nothing. There are a swarm of people who are graduating with 6-figure student loan debt. The mass protests of the "1%" stuff demonstrated that.

There's nothing wrong with college if you can keep it from crushing you in debt. We've had the college conversations before, but even without a college degree, there's nothing stopping an individual from achieving an IT position that doesn't eventually lead into a six-figure income.

It is extremely difficult to just make blanket statements that has one-size-fits-all. You have to take into consideration that the person you're giving advice to has to be motivated enough to actually get themselves in the field.

I think some people forget that most important part. Many people don't even want to put in the effort to get to where we are.