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jricha83

@verizon.net
reply to CGMason14

Re: Verizon is using Sandy as an excuse to force people to FiOS

I got the same letter, and called about it. Verizon is not replacing copper if damaged in any way, and is hoping to require all copper users to go to fiber. I was told that the reason is the bottom line: house calls to fix copper-related problems are being phased out, and replaced by a central help desk for fiber. The permanent dial tone with copper is accomplished via standby batteries at central stations where there are also standby generators to keep those batteries charged. That is true, by the way. I lost landline dial tone for about 20 minutes early in Sandy, then it was restored. I'm in a suburb, so, unfortunately, this upgrade was the final reason to install a standby generator, which is expensive. The other straw is that my basement dry well fills up with water during monster rains, so I need to put a portable sump pump into the dry well - but the pump requires electricity. Incidentally, I have my own Netgear Ethernet router, with an Actiontec MI424WR-E between it and the COAX cable. The solution to using both turned out to be simple: put them on separate IPv4 subnets, and run a CAT5 (or CAT6) cable from a LAN port on the Actiontec router to the WAN port on the Netgear router. I configured the Actiontec's IP address and IP Distribution range to use subnet "2" by changing the 3rd octet from 1 to 2. In plain English, that means that the Actiontec's IP address is now 192.168.2.1, and the addresses it assigns to computers plugged into its LAN ports start with 192.168.2.2 and increment. The Netgear router's address continues to be 192.168.1.1, and computers plugged into it are assigned addresses from 192.168.1.2 on. Each router has a DHCP, but they play well together, because they work on separate subnets. It took several calls to FIOS solutions to figure this out, but it works wonderfully, and is really simple.
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VirtualLarry
Premium
join:2003-08-01
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reply to jricha83

Re: Verizon is using Sandy as an excuse to force people to FiOS

said by jricha83 :

I was told that the reason is the bottom line: house calls to fix copper-related problems are being phased out, and replaced by a central help desk for fiber.

The real reason is that the copper techs are all union, and the FIOS techs are not.

It's about gaining monopoly control over the network (no pesky telco regs), and busting unions.


reallarry

@verizon.net
said by VirtualLarry:

said by jricha83 :

I was told that the reason is the bottom line: house calls to fix copper-related problems are being phased out, and replaced by a central help desk for fiber.

The real reason is that the copper techs are all union, and the FIOS techs are not.

It's about gaining monopoly control over the network (no pesky telco regs), and busting unions.

copper and fios techs are both union. real reason is vz doesnt want to maintain 2 parallel networks. if u owned vz would u want to pay to maintain copper and fiber?


miataman

join:2010-10-27
Chelmsford, MA
kudos:1
Bottom line;
Copper is regulated
Fiber is unregulated
--
"My hat, my cane, Jeeves".


Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to VirtualLarry
said by VirtualLarry:

said by jricha83 :

I was told that the reason is the bottom line: house calls to fix copper-related problems are being phased out, and replaced by a central help desk for fiber.

The real reason is that the copper techs are all union, and the FIOS techs are not.

It's about gaining monopoly control over the network (no pesky telco regs), and busting unions.

There are not two separate entities. A tech is a tech. They are all union.

jophan
Premium
join:2009-07-12
Jenkintown, PA
reply to miataman
Bottom line;
Copper is regulated
Fiber is unregulated
Also not entirely true. It depends on the services you have. POTS is regulated, DSL is not. If you transfer to FiOS for maintenance reasons and resist being upsold to a package, your voice will still be regulated and the data will still be non-reg.