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Guspaz
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Kindle Paperwhite finally launching in Canada

$199 CAD with 3G
$139 CAD with wifi
$89 CAD for non-paperwhite

It's actually being sold from amazon.ca this time around, rather than forcing us to buy from amazon.com, and it qualifies for free shipping.

»www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B007OZO···i=915398

Or the press release and such: »www.engadget.com/2013/01/23/amaz···ontinued
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MichelR

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Cool. I've been thinking about getting one, tough my DXG works well.


peterboro
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I thought it read Kindle Paperweight when I first glanced. But then again it's as good as a paperweight to me so not far off.



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Just ordered it. I was suppose to do a video review of the Kindle a year and a half ago!



Guspaz
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Just bought one myself, with the case. It'll be a nice upgrade from my Kindle 3.
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I have the previous version of the $89 model (sand coloured instead of black). I still feel that one's the best choice for public transit because you can hold it and turn the pages with one hand while holding your morning coffee in the other hand. Not that easy to do with a touchscreen -- or a real book!

I have serious issues with Amazon's Canadian release schedule however...

EDIT: Just compared the Canadian/US prices. The US prices for the non-ad supported models (what we get here) are the same. So no price gouging there.
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Guspaz
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I had the Kindle 3 (Keyboard), so that was also button-based. I'm still uncertain about how well the touchscreen is going to work for me, but we'll see...
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Guspaz
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One difference is that we have to pay full sales tax, while the Americans don't (no tax on internet purchases in the US). That adds a chunk to the order. But at least this time around we're not paying international shipping. When I bought my Kindle 3, Amazon shipped it from the US and charged us shipping for that.
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Thane_Bitter

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FP's article on the launch: »business.financialpost.com/2013/···erwhite/

Post some pics when you get it, I am curious how well the screen, lighting, and capacitive touch interface function.



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said by Guspaz:

One difference is that we have to pay full sales tax, while the Americans don't (no tax on internet purchases in the US)

Entirely incorrect. I order stuff from the US Amazon.com all the time (in fact, I just did yesterday) and have it shipped to an address in Niagara Falls, NY. I pay the 8% NYS/Niagara County combined sales tax on my purchases.

The US is the same situation as Canada - it entirely depends on where you're having it shipped to and whether or not the company has registered for sales tax collection in the jurisdiction of the destination address. Some American states take it a step further, and insist that *you* pay the sales tax on out-of-state (including Internet) purchases you made, and include it on your tax return. Not an issue for us, but can be for the people who live there.

So, if anyone is thinking of ordering something from US Amazon and having it shipped to an address in NYS expecting to not pay sales tax on the US side, you're out of luck.


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I'd get one in an instant if the silly thing supported ePub, but I'll probably get it anyway, the display is supposed to be excellent. I sideloaded the Android Kindle app on the Playbook and it's certainly the best mobi/azw reader out there. The only thing I don't like about it is that Amazon keeps shoving "recommendations" in your face to get you to buy more. If I wanted to watch advertising I'd plant myself in front of the TV all day.
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Guspaz
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said by Gone:

Entirely incorrect. I order stuff from the US Amazon.com all the time (in fact, I just did yesterday) and have it shipped to an address in Niagara Falls, NY. I pay the 8% NYS/Niagara County combined sales tax on my purchases.

The US is the same situation as Canada - it entirely depends on where you're having it shipped to and whether or not the company has registered for sales tax collection in the jurisdiction of the destination address. Some American states take it a step further, and insist that *you* pay the sales tax on out-of-state (including Internet) purchases you made, and include it on your tax return. Not an issue for us, but can be for the people who live there.

So, if anyone is thinking of ordering something from US Amazon and having it shipped to an address in NYS expecting to not pay sales tax on the US side, you're out of luck.

The US has no GST, only state tax, and states can't force out-of-state merchants to pay sales tax unless they have a physical nexus (presence) in that state. As such, for smaller merchants, they don't charge sales tax to almost all of the US. The only complications come from larger vendors. Amazon charges sales tax in New York because NY passed a law designed to force Amazon to charges sales tax there by defining Amazon's affiliates program that includes New York residents as being a physical nexus.

If you had your Amazon order delivered to Vermont, for example, you would not have to pay sales tax.
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said by Guspaz:

If you had your Amazon order delivered to Vermont, for example, you would not have to pay sales tax.

... and if I had NCIX deliver something to Manitoba, I wouldn't pay any provincial sales tax either. Your point?

The fact that we have a federal tax is irrelevant. The methods for determining sales tax for Internet purchases in the US and Canada at source are exactly same system. It's based on business operations and/or physical presence and the delivery location of the receiving party. When I ordered a laptop from Cheetah Deals a year ago online I paid sales tax because they're a NYS company from out near Albany and they were shipping to a New York State address. When I order stuff from Newegg US (yes, I can order stuff using a Canadian credit card from Newegg US and have it shipped to my US address) to be delivered to a NYS address, I pay no sales tax because it comes from New Jersey.

You made the blanket claim that Americans don't pay sales tax on Internet purchases. That's completely false. Like Canada, it depends on where you're buying from and where you're shipping it to. If a Canadian decides to order something from Amazon and have it shipped to a NYS address, they're paying sales tax. End of story. If for some reason they're having it shipped to California they'll pay sales tax, too.

alexpb1

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This is good news. I am glad to hear Amazon.ca finally selling Kindle devices. Happy to see the pricing is identical to the US store (albeit without the ad-supported models). With Amazon opening the Kindle store at Amazon.ca and finally selling Kindles directly in Canada, maybe we might see an ad-supported model in the future.

I would definitely get a paperwhite if I didn't already have a fully functional Kindle Keyboard. The built-in front light looks intriguing. I use a "lighted cover" with my Kindlw which draws power from the Kindle. It adds a bit of weight overall, but I am used to it.

I'll probably get a second generation Paperwhite, whenever that is.


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Hmm holds slightly more than 1000 books, whoopdeedoo.

My Nexus 7 can hold several thousand books, and it can also do all the other things a tablet can do.

And every other tablet can pretty much say the same.

Not sure how these can be all that thrilling.

Now if they came for free as a means to getting us interested in a service that used the device....

Hey they do that with phones, so it is NOT a dumb notion.

My tablet has Kindle software, it reads books just like a Kindle, but, it is not just a Kindle.



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The display doesn't need a backlight and they are incredibly easy on the eyes. They call it eInk for a reason. The battery in an eReader when compared to something like a Nexus 7 lasts forever. My wife doesn't have a Kindle, but she has a Sony e-Reader and absolutely loves thing. They serve a different purpose from a general purpose tablet and can't really be compared.



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Can your tablet, or any tablet, be used outside on a bright sunny day, especially while wearing sunglasses? Can your tablet last for several months of daily use without ever worrying about running out of power?

And while debatable to many, a lot of people still have trouble using backlit devices for too long as it hurts their eyes or gives them a headache. I know I can't read for too long on a tablet or my eyes will start hurting. eInk, on the other hand, is better than reading a real book.

eInk devices are far more useful to a lot of people that don't need tablets. I own a playbook myself, used an iPad and a Nexus... and would still buy an eInk device for reading no matter what.



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why are people so gaga over the Kindle Paperwhite?
I tried it out in the US, and much prefer the Kobo Glo's light.

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Guspaz
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I have an iPad (3rd gen too, so very nice screen). I have a Kindle. I much prefer reading on the e-ink display.

In terms of the Paperwhite versus the Glo, I'm already in the Amazon ecosystem, so this is an upgrade, not a new device. I'm happy with the way things work at Amazon, and my experience with Kobo devices did not impress me in terms of the interface (my parents have a Kobo Touch).

Comparing the two devices, the Kobo has the following pros/cons that I'm aware of (from a hardware perspective):

Pros:
- Lighter (189g vs 213g)
- Expandable (microSD slot)
- Cheaper ($130 vs $139)

Cons:
- Thicker (10mm vs 9mm)
- Older touchscreen (infrared versus capacitive)
- Less even lighting

The extra thickness is probably because of the touchscreen, actually. Infrared touchscreens require a thicker bezel for the lights/sensors.

Either device is pretty good, from what the reviews say. It really comes down more to personal preference and which ecosystem you're already in. Most of my books are from Baen, so I have them in every conceivable format, although Baen just migrated to Amazon a month or two ago (and almost doubled their prices across the board).

EDIT: It seems like the Paperwhite promises longer battery life, but the manufacturers of eBooks all use completely different and incompatible measurements of battery life. They report battery life in months, but with different numbers of hours per day at different brightness levels.
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Thane_Bitter

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I thought the Kindle Paperwhite had less even lighting over the Kobo Glo or did they improve it?

I have a feeling Amazon does a better job writing and testing their firmware, its and area that Kobo needs to improve.

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