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Wolfie00
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Re: Kindle Paperwhite finally launching in Canada

You didn't read the second paragraph? I'm trying to buy it from Amazon, but first I have to find out what the hell they're selling. That's why I sent them an email. I don't want the ad-infested one. But the price structure -- relative to US pricing, and what The Source is selling it for -- suggests that it probably is.


Guspaz
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Amazon in Canada does not sell the ad-supported version.



Wolfie00
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I would certainly have assumed that, but The Source sells only the ad-supported version of that model, and for the same price (actually a dollar more, $89.99 at The Source vs $89.00 at amazon.ca). This is what made me suspicious, otherwise it would never even have occurred to me that it had ads. I didn't think the ad-supported version was even available in Canada, it makes absolutely no sense, but there it was, ads on the demo unit, and it said so right on the box, too.

I got a useless response from Amazon that just said "I've checked our website and see that Kindle Wi-Fi, 6" E Ink Display comes without special offers at the CDN$ 89.00". IOW, he doesn't know any more than I do. I can check the website, too.

EDIT: The more I research this, the more I think there's something screwy going on with The Source. I don't think any Canadian models should be ad-supported. This seems to confirm it, too: "Cheaper ad-supported models aren't available [in Canada]."
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milnoc

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Maybe The Source is trying to screw you out of an extra $20. Do you remember who owns the chain?
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Wolfie00
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said by milnoc:

Maybe The Source is trying to screw you out of an extra $20. Do you remember who owns the chain?

A certain telecom giant whose name rhymes with "hell"?

It's also telling that this whole enterprise has a shady history of complicated ownership changes since the Tandy and InterTan days and, in an ironic twist, InterTan once ran the Rogers Plus chain. I really never liked the place but would have been willing to pick up a commodity item like a Kindle, and here they are trying to screw their customers. This is blatant deception, and I bet they're counting on the fact that 90% of buyers will think that this is just how Kindles work, and either not care or blame Amazon. Worse, the "special offers" probably don't even work in Canada so they probably shouldn't be selling these even if honestly priced and represented!
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said by Guspaz:

So I've been doing a bunch of reading the past two days on it. You can still turn pages single-handed, but page turning is indeed not as good with the touchscreen.

Just how big are your hands?
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Guspaz
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Errm, you need only move your thumb half an inch or so to advance to the next page. It's not as nice as the button, but it's not exactly running a marathon...
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milnoc

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I hold the Kindle in my left hand. I'd be reading backwards.


alexpb1

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said by Guspaz:

Errm, you need only move your thumb half an inch or so to advance to the next page. It's not as nice as the button, but it's not exactly running a marathon...

I believe before the Paperwhite when they had the touch screen models you had to literally swipe your finger to change a page. A lot of people complained I believe. So I think they changed it with the paperwhite where you only have to touch the screen on the left/right side of the screen to change the page?

I would definitely be interested in a paperwhite v2 with physical side buttons.


ekster
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reply to milnoc
Kindle doesn't allow you to change the page turn areas? Maybe you should get a kobo then.



Wolfie00
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One last thing I needed to check, to see how various non-Kindle books would convert to the Kindle format. The pagination is screwed up on other apps but displays perfectly on the Kindle app on the Playbook. So I ordered the button model. Looking forward to it, but if it's the ad version, it's going right back. Pretty sure now that it isn't, though.



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Just broke down & bought the $139 unit. Looking forward to giving it a good work out.
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Guspaz
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Pagination? Generally an ePub converted for the Kindle should be indistinguishable from a native MOBI version of the same file... I certainly can't tell any difference between a Baen book where I've converted the ePub to MOBI versus the native MOBI (Baen gives you their books in all conceivable formats when you buy them).

In terms of the left hand, it's a missing feature to be sure. You can still use your left thumb by swiping it, but that requires stretching it farther.
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Wolfie00
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said by Guspaz:

Pagination? Generally an ePub converted for the Kindle should be indistinguishable from a native MOBI version of the same file... I certainly can't tell any difference between a Baen book where I've converted the ePub to MOBI versus the native MOBI

What do you use for conversion? Calibre? Does it look OK in the internal viewer? Maybe I'm missing something simple, but going between ePub and MOBI or the other way always seems to lose pagination in the Calibre internal viewer and in Book Reader. For instance, when I convert stuff purchased from Amazon into ePub (because Book Reader doesn't really support mobi all that well) the pagination is shot.

But in the test that I did (going from ePub to MOBI) I specified "Kindle" as the output profile, and though the pagination once again looked shot in the Calibre viewer, it displays fine in the Playbook Kindle app. As long as the conversions display fine on the physical Kindle, that's all I care about.

P.S.- I noticed that the voltage and the microUSB adapter on the Playbook charger are the same as the Kindle, so I should be able to use that charger with it instead of a computer USB port -- an added plus!
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Guspaz
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I haven't converted anything in a long time, but I used calibre, and I don't use the calibre viewer. What do you mean by pagination is messed up? eBooks don't use any pagination at all, except between chapters.
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Wolfie00
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Sorry, I should have been more clear. What I mean is that explicit page breaks are gone -- i.e.- the title page runs right into the table of contents which runs right into the preface which runs right into the first chapter, etc. At least as observed in the Calibre viewer and in Book Reader. But as I say, ePubs converted to MOBI that seem to have "lost" pagination seem to still display correctly in Kindle. I even verified that the hyperlinked table of contents works, and takes you to the correct page.
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Wolfie00
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Well that was efficient -- my Kindle just shipped! It took four hours!



milnoc

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And you should get it within a day or two, with your account info already pre-programmed.

Don't worry. you can easily change it if it isn't the account you want to use for buying books.
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Guspaz
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You'll get it in a day or two if Canada Post doesn't fail to leave a delivery slip during the delivery attempt, proceed to deliver it to a different post office than your normal one, forget to scan it at the post office as it arrives making it appear as if it's still in transit, and then put it on the wrong shelf in the back room so that the post office employee can't find it when you show up to ask where the heck it is.

Luckily, all that only meant that the delivery took 4 days instead of 1. It did mean some unnecessary walks in the cold, though.
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Wolfie00
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Ah, yes, the illustrious members of CUPW. Last time I ordered something from Amazon it was just a paperback book and I ended up finding it by accident on a chair on the front porch. It's always an adventure with Canada Post. Maybe this time they will fling it through my window or leave it on the street in a puddle of water at the end of the driveway. We shall see.

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