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Re: I've got nothing to hidesaid by Camaro:said by seamore: the thing is, the common person can not fight tooth and nail for privacy.
Oh yes I can sir, by not giving into the "I have nothing to hide" is a start for me. No I wouldn't be standing at my door with a shotgun if people in black vans come a knocking, but you damn sure my 1 vote will go to a politician who has at least a few of my privacy concerns in mind. I will never have that mentality of "come on in nothing to hide here". But we are still a free country so we each have our own opinion of the situation. Dont be silly. Politicians dont care about what you want. They are only concerned about which lobby will line their pockets. Just look at the Patriot Act. Im sure you're upset about that, too, right? Look at the number of Yeas compared to the nays The politicians dont care what you think.\ You really think if someone fires off an email/letter/call to their rep that the rep takes the time to shuffle through all of them? LOL » educate-yourself.org/cn/ ··· te.shtmlI cant be bothered by this "snooping". |
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said by seamore: Im not sharing personal info to people freely. I win. Also, just an obvious correction on your point, it is not politicians we are concerned about snooping into our personal data, it is some random federal employee who may or may not be on the up and up. |
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seamore
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2013-Jan-25 8:25 pm
said by DataRiker:said by seamore: Im not sharing personal info to people freely. I win. Also, just an obvious correction on your point, it is not politicians we are concerned about snooping into our personal data, it is some random federal employee who may or may not be on the up and up. You didnt win anything. This is about those being bothered by government snooping. dont be an id You have your opinion that you dont like the gov. snooping and i have my opinion about gov. snooping. We obviously dont agree. paranoia is abundant when the D is in the house. |
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DataRiker
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2013-Jan-26 12:06 am
Perhaps if you didn't have blatantly contradictory points ( Namely, not sharing personal info freely, yet being ok with warrant-less spying ) we could take you seriously.
And your incessant suggestion of political party reasons are equally nausea inducing. ( wanting privacy is now a political party position? )
In short, you don't have a position at all, since essentially you are taking both sides.
I mean your argument is that spying is not ok for a Walmart employee but ok for a Postal employee, yet the postal employee has the potential to do much more harm than the Walmart employee. ( Assuming your mail is more sensitive than your grocery list)
Extremely illogical. |
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seamore Premium Member join:2009-11-02 |
seamore
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2013-Jan-26 2:48 am
said by DataRiker:Perhaps if you didn't have blatantly contradictory points ( Namely, not sharing personal info freely, yet being ok with warrant-less spying ) we could take you seriously.
And your incessant suggestion of political party reasons are equally nausea inducing. ( wanting privacy is now a political party position? )
In short, you don't have a position at all, since essentially you are taking both sides.
I mean your argument is that spying is not ok for a Walmart employee but ok for a Postal employee, yet the postal employee has the potential to do much more harm than the Walmart employee. ( Assuming your mail is more sensitive than your grocery list)
Extremely illogical. Bullshit! Me electing to give you my SS number IS not the same as the government snooping on me for criminal actions. This would be the ONLY reason the government would snoop you. Walmart has no reason to spy on me. However, they may find financial gain if they track my buying habits and sell that info to a 3rd party. That im against. The government, or as you say, a federal employee, only reason to look/snoop is to look for any thing breaking the law. They are not trying to make money by spying on me. christ, it's like talking to a 1st grader. |
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said by seamore: They are not trying to make money by spying on me. So you judge people's criminal potential on the basis of whether or not they work for the government. I worked for the government for two years and found the people I worked for way less trustworthy than my time in the private sector. So I am really curious behind the logic of this one. |
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seamore
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2013-Jan-26 1:19 pm
said by DataRiker:said by seamore: They are not trying to make money by spying on me. So you judge people's criminal potential on the basis of whether or not they work for the government. No, absolutely not. However, i do find private corporations more unethical than the government. |
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Well I don't plan on going to live in a hole so I am stuck here. I am not flaming anyone, but having that attitude permeates into people thinking they can't do anything so the hell with it.
And the Patriot ACT is a whole other ball of wax, I am going to stay on point.
I think we should agree to disagree, you have your camp I have mine and as long as there are at least 2 that's fine by me. |
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said by seamore:No, absolutely not. However, i do find private corporations more unethical than the government. So to sum up you don't mind spying by a person hired through the usajobs.gov website, but you are absolutely against a person hired say by Sony Inc. ( Never mind the fact that many people in government came directly from some corporation ) |
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seamore
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2013-Jan-26 8:41 pm
said by DataRiker:said by seamore:No, absolutely not. However, i do find private corporations more unethical than the government. So to sum up you don't mind spying by a person hired through the usajobs.gov website, but you are absolutely against a person hired say by Sony Inc. ( Never mind the fact that many people in government came directly from some corporation ) Abso-fucking-lutely! remember: Gov. spies for criminal activity corps spy for monetary gain. There's a huge difference here that we're talking about. |
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DataRiker
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2013-Jan-26 11:55 pm
Maybe if you live in Hollywood.
Perhaps somebody needs a refresher on the US defense industry. |
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