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gruntlord6

join:2010-06-10
Barrie, ON
reply to seamore

Re: I've got nothing to hide

said by seamore:

and that's all i have to say about that.

Doesn't mean the goverment should need all your personal emails.

easonin
Rock Ridge, FL

join:2008-07-08

Exactly. And, if you don't exercise your rights, you'll lose them. Difficult to do in this case, but just as important. We all need to stand up together against this, even if you do feel the way you do because sooner or later, they'll come after something you do want to protect and there will be no one left to stand with you. Or whatever Niemöller said!
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Duramax08
To The Moon
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join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

lol, so what are you hiding then? seriously, if you arent hiding anything like child porn, terrorist activities or company espionage, theres nothing to worry about. you sound like they are going to sell your info to a third party or something. they are only asking for these request probably for some type on investigation going on that could lead to criminal charges.

or maybe they want to know what kind of toilet paper you buy off of amazon? : P
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easonin
Rock Ridge, FL

join:2008-07-08

The thing to worry about is where does this end? Or rather, what will be next? If we let this happen, what else would YOU let them do and "not worry about"? That's the concern.
And besides, we all know there are safer ways to hide stuff from "them", no matter who they are!
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seamore
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join:2009-11-02
reply to gruntlord6

said by gruntlord6:

said by seamore:

and that's all i have to say about that.

Doesn't mean the goverment should need all your personal emails.

Believe me, they wont find anything exciting.
People should worry about things that MATTER.


seamore
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join:2009-11-02
reply to gruntlord6

said by gruntlord6:

said by seamore:

and that's all i have to say about that.

Doesn't mean the goverment should need all your personal emails.

Im more bothered by my info being collected by a corporation and sold to the highest bidder.

NOVA_UAV_Guy
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Purcellville, VA
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reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

lol, so what are you hiding then? seriously, if you arent hiding anything like child porn, terrorist activities or company espionage, theres nothing to worry about.

The concern here isn't whether or not one has anything to hide.

It's whether or not a government constrained by a social contract known as the Constitution and its various amendments continues to act within the confines of those supposed constraints. Unfortunately it does not, and has not for quite some time.

said by Fourth Amendment :

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The portion of the Fourth Amendment relevant to our discussion is in bold above. Note that there are no "except if it's more convenient to do otherwise" or "except if the current administration doesn't like it" exceptions spelled out anywhere.

If, as some will undoubtedly argue, "times change" or "nobody could have foreseen a need", then our Founding Fathers did build outline a method of updating the government's contract with its people: a Constitutional Convention. Rather than secretly doing things by dark of night under clouds of suspicion with barely legal (and somewhat illegal) methods, our government should at least attack our rights out in the open and tell us that it intends to take them away. I'd rather that the First, Second, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments die a heroic death out in the open than be shredded by a bunch of wimpy bureaucrats and die of a thousand paper cuts.

We have a government that's out of control, not operating within the scope of its legal authority, and some citizens find that acceptable. I guess that President Reagan was right when he said that freedom is always only one generation away from death. It's too bad that it has to be the current generation that wants to kill it in the names of "safety and security", "political correctness", "fairness", or whatever other nonsense they want to call it today.


firephoto
We the people
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join:2003-03-18
Brewster, WA
reply to Duramax08

said by Duramax08:

lol, so what are you hiding then?

... or company espionage, theres nothing to worry about.

You included the primary target of allowable snooping by accident.

The greatest ideas that result in the biggest profits are most always taken from someone else, by various means.

Do you seriously think all these multi-billion dollar corporations who roll over on their back when it comes to data privacy are doing it in the name of patriotism? They allow it because it gives them a free get out of jail ticket when they can just say the data they may or may not of seen was also seen by the gov't so "anyone" could of seen it or given it away so they shouldn't be liable for all the money they may or may not have made from seeing it or using it.

But yea, what I had for dinner and where I bought a pack of gum is "nothing to hide" so who cares...
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Snakeoil
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reply to easonin

We have more important things to worry about. Like getting firearms away from law abiding citizens. We can't keep them out of the hands of criminals, so we might as well take them away from the people that obey the laws.

Besides, I don't care if the government walks into my house and helps themselves to anything they want. I have nothing to hide, and I'm not afraid to share anything that i own.

*Please note the use of sarcasm.

As a law abiding citizen, I find it offensive when someone out there makes comments like "I have nothing to hide". As American citizens, we are supposed to have rights that prevent the government from spying on us.

That fact that our government has no problem in stepping on those rights, and that their are citizens that don't care if it does, is a damn shame.

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MrBungle87

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reply to seamore

said by seamore:

said by gruntlord6:

said by seamore:

and that's all i have to say about that.

Doesn't mean the goverment should need all your personal emails.

Believe me, they wont find anything exciting.
People should worry about things that MATTER.

So if you don't consider constant and overreaching government surveillance important, what *does* matter? Oh, right, in your world view, only corporations can do evil, and the government remains ever vigilant of your rights, always beneficent.


seamore
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join:2009-11-02

said by MrBungle87:

So if you don't consider constant and overreaching government surveillance important, what *does* matter? Oh, right, in your world view, only corporations can do evil, and the government remains ever vigilant of your rights, always beneficent.

I'd rather have the gov. snoop on me than a corporation.
Corps are greedy organizations and will do anything (including breaking the law) to make a dime.

The governments only reason to snoop is for crime and NOT to make money.