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shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

[Hockey] Centre Ice doesn't cut it for me

So, Centre Ice is on Free preview right now. It should be free for the season, but I digress. Anyways, I thought I'd be able to catch the Leafs-Isles game.

Nope. Not on Centre Ice. Not on TSN or TSN2 or SportsNet either. But hey, Centre Ice is giving me BOTH the Home and Away feeds of the Blues-Predators game. BTW, those sweaters the Blues are wearing tonight are absolutely amazing. I want one. But, what I really want is to watch the Leafs.

So, since there's obviously no guarantee the NHL is smart enough to broadcast Leaf games outside of Toronto, forget it, I'm not buying it.

I understand the whole rights argument, trust me, I get it. I bet I could watch every Phoenix or Columbus game this year on Centre Ice, but not Leafs.
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I'm a man, but I can change. If I have to. I guess.

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shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

Oh I see...it's a LeafsTV game. Lame.

BTW again, I cannot believe how many empty seats there are in Florida tonight.



twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
kudos:3
reply to shaner

Its on center ice for me.


Mont

join:2006-05-02
Saint-Leonard, QC

I have the leafs on game on center ice.



BigSensFan
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Whitby, ON

said by Mont:

I have the leafs on game on center ice.

I think if you live in Leafs territory that you have to watch it on Leafs Tv ... I am in Leafs territory and it is blacked out for me (not that I want to watch it anyways )
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shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB
reply to Mont

said by Mont:

I have the leafs on game on center ice.

Wierd. I can't find it anywhere. I even looked to see if the channel was locked out in my guide or something. It's just not there.


BigSensFan
Premium
join:2003-07-16
Whitby, ON

who is your service provider? I see it on my Bell Fibe TV (cant watch though)



shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

TELUS Optik TV. I'd be surprised if this was a provider issue. Centre Ice should be the same for everyone.



shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

Okay...wait a sec...they sucked me in.

»www.telus.com/content/tv/optik/p···-ice.jsp

For $50, how can I go wrong?
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I'm a man, but I can change. If I have to. I guess.

»shaner38.blogspot.com/



dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
Premium
join:2002-02-21
London, ON

yea, a few of the "sports guys" at work have the Rogers Super Sports pack...it's $36/month, but it's ridiculous...i mean seriously, how on Earth can you possibly watch that much sports...have you seen that before?

NFL Sunday Ticket
NHL Center Ice
MLB Extra Innings
NBA Season Pass
OHL Action Pak
NCAA Basketball and Football
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- George Orwell



shaner
Premium
join:2000-10-04
Calgary, AB

Holy crap...that's a lot of sports.



dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
Premium
join:2002-02-21
London, ON

yea, i know...and most of those sports kind of overlap a little (not all on at the same time, or at least for a very limited time), so there is always something on.



vue666
Small block Chevys never die
Premium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS
kudos:1
reply to shaner

It was on Center Ice in Halifax. Not sure if it was a Leafs or an Islanders broadcast as I was too busy enjoying the Blues-Preds game to channel surf....



vue666
Small block Chevys never die
Premium
join:2007-12-07
Halifax, NS
kudos:1
reply to dirtyjeffer

said by dirtyjeffer:

yea, a few of the "sports guys" at work have the Rogers Super Sports pack...it's $36/month, but it's ridiculous...i mean seriously, how on Earth can you possibly watch that much sports...have you seen that before?

NFL Sunday Ticket
NHL Center Ice
MLB Extra Innings
NBA Season Pass
OHL Action Pak
NCAA Basketball and Football

What no NASCAR? LOL


rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to shaner

It's called Blackout, and it's got nothing to to with Bell, it's got to do with the NHL being a bunch of money grubbing bastards.


Mont

join:2006-05-02
Saint-Leonard, QC

Im in Montreal with Fibe TV and it was on channel 1426 NHL 1, the broadcast was from Leafs TV.

There is 10 SD and 7 HD channels on Fibe TV , if you get the same amount of channels with Telus then the game should have been on the guide.


booj

join:2011-02-07
Richmond, ON
reply to rodjames

said by rodjames:

It's called Blackout, and it's got nothing to to with Bell, it's got to do with the NHL being a bunch of money grubbing bastards.

The TV stations are the ones that demand games be blacked out to users in their region who do not subscribe to their services, not the NHL.

Gamecentre live + unblock-us FTW.


rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON

I'm sorry, I believe you are mistaken

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_(···ing)#NHL



eweazel

join:2008-12-09
Etobicoke, ON
reply to shaner

Yup, Gamecenter plus Unblock-us = no blackouts.



Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON
reply to booj

said by booj:

said by rodjames:

It's called Blackout, and it's got nothing to to with Bell, it's got to do with the NHL being a bunch of money grubbing bastards.

The TV stations are the ones that demand games be blacked out to users in their region who do not subscribe to their services, not the NHL.

Gamecentre live + unblock-us FTW.

I was looking at that (already have Unblock-US). I checked out the free Highlights section, though, and found the video pixely. It's no worse than watching a game on the CBC website, but for a service I'm paying for I'd want to know that I'm getting high quality picture.

If Centre Ice is only $50, though, that's the same price as game centre and guaranteed picture quality. Hmmm...
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zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC
Reviews:
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said by Styvas:

said by booj:

said by rodjames:

It's called Blackout, and it's got nothing to to with Bell, it's got to do with the NHL being a bunch of money grubbing bastards.

The TV stations are the ones that demand games be blacked out to users in their region who do not subscribe to their services, not the NHL.

Gamecentre live + unblock-us FTW.

I was looking at that (already have Unblock-US). I checked out the free Highlights section, though, and found the video pixely. It's no worse than watching a game on the CBC website, but for a service I'm paying for I'd want to know that I'm getting high quality picture.

If Centre Ice is only $50, though, that's the same price as game centre and guaranteed picture quality. Hmmm...

Gamecenter Live is eons better than the CBC website. Gamecenter's highest bitrate is 4500 and looks to be about 720p in resolution (HD). CBC only airs crappy SD quality feeds?

I think Centre Ice looks better than Gamecenter, but gamecenter gets a little bit better every year, and you do get the flexibility to use proxies to circumvent the blackouts.

I'm actually thinking of using GameCentre this year as I really like the choice I get in the away/home feeds. I also find GameCenter looks better on my Xbox than on the PC. The PC seems to use a lower framerate which makes a pan of the ice look unsmooth.


Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON

I would say that I agree that the quality is higher than watching a game online (e.g., CBC website). However, as the cameral pans quickly, I find the quality goes downhill fast. That might be more about my setup than the actual digital feed, but it's still less than satisfactory for me (even if my situation is atypical). At least the Centre Ice feed is the equivalent of a regular TV feed without that panning problem.
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booj

join:2011-02-07
Richmond, ON

said by Styvas:

I would say that I agree that the quality is higher than watching a game online (e.g., CBC website). However, as the cameral pans quickly, I find the quality goes downhill fast. That might be more about my setup than the actual digital feed, but it's still less than satisfactory for me (even if my situation is atypical). At least the Centre Ice feed is the equivalent of a regular TV feed without that panning problem.

After Gamecentre for a few days I think that quality is a bit better than cbc's streams on average.

Apparantly if you are using an app box like Apple TV/XBOX/PS3/Roku it's a less choppy signal. I think I suffer a bit using an old laptop as my media centre.

My one complaint is that when I fullscreen the video stream, its letterboxed even though it shouldn't be. Flash doesn't let me resize it to fit an HDTV screen properly. I think the experience is slightly better on dedicated devices.

That said the discounted $50 price for this season has made the experience pleasurable... or maybe it's just the Sens record so far


Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON

I was viewing the free content on an AppleTV.


NefCanuck

join:2007-06-26
Mississauga, ON
reply to shaner

I ponied up for the Gamecentre Live last night ($50 for the season) and I justified it as a birthday present to myself

Ran the app on an iPad3 with Retina display using a 25/7 Bell Fibe connection and gotta say I was impressed by the video quality (watched CBJ/COL then SJS/PHX)

I'm assuming that even if I used unblock-us now and tried to watch the games on my PC, I'd still get whacked with the regional restrictions, or am I wrong?

Now whether it will look as good on the PS3 to my HDTV is the next step that I'll be playing with this weekend, I think I'm glad I added the 120GB overage insurance to my account cause I'm gonna need it)

Regarding the Leafs games, looks like your only on line option is when CBC is broadcasting them, which is odd since the Leafs used to offer a streaming option to watch their games.

NefCanuck



Styvas
Go Canucks Go
Premium
join:2004-09-15
Hamilton, ON

said by NefCanuck:

Now whether it will look as good on the PS3 to my HDTV is the next step that I'll be playing with this weekend, I think I'm glad I added the 120GB overage insurance to my account cause I'm gonna need it)
NefCanuck

Let me know how it looks. I'm very curious if you find motion to be problematic like I have on my ATV. On the other hand, it could be that the quality of the free highlights is less than that of the games themselves, since they are no charge to watch.
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NefCanuck

join:2007-06-26
Mississauga, ON

said by Styvas:

said by NefCanuck:

Now whether it will look as good on the PS3 to my HDTV is the next step that I'll be playing with this weekend, I think I'm glad I added the 120GB overage insurance to my account cause I'm gonna need it)
NefCanuck

Let me know how it looks. I'm very curious if you find motion to be problematic like I have on my ATV. On the other hand, it could be that the quality of the free highlights is less than that of the games themselves, since they are no charge to watch.

Will do, I'll also see if I can get the PS3's web browser to display the CBC games on Saturday night (But I'm not optimistic on that particular point, the PS3 web browser is a steaming pile of chicken poop)

NefCanuck

booj

join:2011-02-07
Richmond, ON
reply to NefCanuck

said by NefCanuck:

I'm assuming that even if I used unblock-us now and tried to watch the games on my PC, I'd still get whacked with the regional restrictions, or am I wrong?

Unblock-us will let you watch the blacked-out games as well. Works for me.

I heard that the PS3 app wouldn't be ready until February... not sure though.


dirtyjeffer
Anons on ignore, but not due to fear.
Premium
join:2002-02-21
London, ON

correct me if i am wrong, but i think those unblock (hide DNS) services add a bit of lag?...maybe that accounts for some PQ issues?


booj

join:2011-02-07
Richmond, ON

said by dirtyjeffer:

correct me if i am wrong, but i think those unblock (hide DNS) services add a bit of lag?...maybe that accounts for some PQ issues?

It adds a little latency, but only to video sites. Unblock-us is able to handle full quality streaming from most sites I have tried (netflix,bbc, etc).