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<description><![CDATA[fast4ward posted : I agree, they could ask if you had service done, previous problems and why would you go away knowing your furnace is suspect. With the history others have with these furnaces . A nightmare.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Wolfie00 posted : I bet that if the insurance company could substantiate the fact that someone left on vacation with a "known furnace defect" -- I can just see that phrase gracing the pages of a legal document -- the slimeball bastards would refuse insurance coverage.   There would be legal mumbo-jumbo about how he "should have exercised appropriate due diligence..." etc. etc. <br><small>--<br>"The promoters of the global economy see nothing odd or difficult about unlimited economic growth or unlimited consumption in a limited world." <br>-- Wendell Berry</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1172979" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1172979');">Wolfie00</a>:</said><p>If you happened to be away on vacation at the time, the house could freeze up and the pipes burst, and subsequently flood the place.<br> </p></div>and get a cheque from the insurance company and you can buy all new stuff...it's a win-win. ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Wolfie00 posted : The post in the HVAC forum with the service letter referenced above seems to answer all your questions.   It sounds like a defective furnace design that affects the contacts in the pressure switch, for which the work-around is a new model of switch that's less sensitive to contamination.  If this service letter describes your furnace and your pressure switch part number, it's case closed.  If not, you should still make York aware that you've seen this letter and it may be a related problem.<br><br>Funny thing is, I was just reading an unrelated article about how much general product reliability has improved since the 70's.  This kind of defect, especially in something critical like a furnace, is totally unacceptable.   If you happened to be away on vacation at the time, the house could freeze up and the pipes burst, and subsequently flood the place.<br><small>--<br>"The promoters of the global economy see nothing odd or difficult about unlimited economic growth or unlimited consumption in a limited world." <br>-- Wendell Berry</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : Hello,<br><br>I'm waiting for an email back from york to see what they have to say after I have provided them with some info. Hopefully they will do the right thing and help me out and replace the part for free.<br><br>I have searched the issue and know what you mean about all the issues with these pressure switches. I'm wondering if a universal switch would be any better then the york part that will just fail again?<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Motofreak posted : Holly cow man,  <br><br> Yes I'm a DIY type of person, but my neighbour is a HVAC Lic tech.  But its only two screw and two 8mm rubber low vacuum hoses with no clamps on it. Just a screw driver is required! heck most my kids toys are harder to assembly then this POS switch!   <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?441652-Do-York-pressure-switches-have-a-design-flaw" >hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php&middot;&middot;&middot;ign-flaw</A><br><br>At post 17 in the thread, there is service letter just for switches. I call and verified about this letter, but even with the updated switch, even new style still fails between the second & third week of October for us.   We've tested & verified that everything is in working condition.  So there was no need to jump the gun, safety is always number one in my book.    <br><br>Bryan,  since you made sure there were no blockage, I would get on the phone with York, and arm yourself with that letter! But I'm telling you, just Google "York affinity furnace pressure switch" and you will see what I mean.  Over the years, when it would fail, I'd check for ice and snow build up around the vents, if we had any. I would get a yearly go over with my HVAC guy.  Then I would just replace the switch once it would fail usual around first real cold night.  <br><br>But now, I just go ahead and replace it yearly so i wouldn't get woken up in the middle of the night "saying it's cold in here"<br><br><i>Your home heating by York</i> <small> (Unless you get frost or its really cold out)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/681965" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=681965');">Grappler</a>:</said><p>While I do not disagree that "lots of people "DIY" things they shouldn't", there is no law that prohibits a home owner (in Ontario) from doing their own gas work.  The only requirement is that they have to be the home owner and the work has to be inspected and tagged by a licensed "gas-fitter".  Enbridge did an inspection on my own install for a fee of $65.00 back in 2008. Hence the insurance covers the install.<br><br>Ironically, as the tagging is with a paper tag then in all probability that tag will be burned up in the event of a fire.<br> </p></div>yes, of course...you can do whatever you want, then get it inspected and signed off...but most "DIY" people don't...most don't pull permits either.<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1409678" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1409678');">peterboro</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer</a>:</said><p> ...the only thing they had left to their name was a $300k mortgage and no home to show for it.<br> </p></div>All they should of had left was a receipt for $1400.00 from a trustee in bankruptcy.<br> </p></div>that happened shortly after.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[peterboro posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer</a>:</said><p> ...the only thing they had left to their name was a $300k mortgage and no home to show for it.<br> </p></div>All they should of had left was a receipt for $1400.00 from a trustee in bankruptcy.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[elwoodblues posted : I could tell you guys a story<br><br>13yrs ago I bought my house it had an oil burner. I called over a friend who is in the gas business, he cleaned it and said it was very old and needed replacing (was in the game plan just the same, fuel oil is a nasty game).<br><br>The next fall he replaces the furnace, and all is well. In a call to Enbridge about something i mentioned i replaced my furnace, and was asked if they could inspect the work, no charge.<br><br>Guy comes over,checks the book, and says the B Vent is wrong. ???????<br><br>I call my friend who has been in the business over 25yrs and he said the tech was full of it. So I ignored it. A few months later i get a letter saying that I  had plenty of time to fix it and now they were going to turn off my gas.<br><br>I got a hold of the letter writer and explained my situation, that I was stuck in the middle between someone I absolutely trust and some guy who walked in the door.<br><br>I asked if they could send someone over again, and explain to me in ENGLISH, what the problem was. The same guy shows up again, and strangely enough finds nothing wrong, (and I'd done ZERO work to repair the "problem"), but would I like to buy an air conditioner?<br><small>--<br><b>No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake....... </b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Grappler posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer</a>:</said><p>because lots of people "DIY" things they shouldn't...an acquaintance of someone i work with installed their own gas heater in their garage as he wanted a warm garage to work in...about a month later, the whole garage and house burnt down...after an inspection, it was due to faulty installation of the gas heater and the insurance company refused coverage...they lost everything, and the house was only about 1 year old...the only thing they had left to their name was a $300k mortgage and no home to show for it.<br> </p></div>While I do not disagree that "lots of people "DIY" things they shouldn't", there is no law that prohibits a home owner (in Ontario) from doing their own gas work.  The only requirement is that they have to be the home owner and the work has to be inspected and tagged by a licensed "gas-fitter".  Enbridge did an inspection on my own install for a fee of $65.00 back in 2008. Hence the insurance covers the install.<br><br>Ironically, as the tagging is with a paper tag then in all probability that tag will be burned up in the event of a fire.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by um no :</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p>I did notice a little bit of water on one of them but thats probably normal since its hot air coming out of the exhaust and its cold outside.<br> </p></div>Um, no. But depends where. Water at the furnace is not good $ign.<br><br>Where exactly was the water?<br> </p></div>Outside on the exhaust pipe<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fast4ward posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/953970" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=953970');">fast4ward</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p>Got a email back from York asking for some info about the company and furnace, hopefully they can help us out.<br><br>only issue now is that the furnace has been working ok the past day or 2 now that the temps are rising again.<br><br> </p></div>is the air intake and exhaust piping to code, did the installers hack, compromise or take short cuts ? If you have some freeze up issues leading to blockage it's worth questioning.<br> </p></div>They look correct to me, I dont notice anything jumping out that could be wrong. Unless the angle is wrong or something?<br> </p></div> They may well be but I have read a lot of installers take short cuts on the vents, i believe you can have problems with icing if too close to the ground etc. google "incorrect furnace vents" and you will see examples of issues . Its worth checking yours are right to help get to the root cause.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1388405" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1388405');">elwoodblues</a>:</said><p>DJ, installing a "Gas heater" and installing an electronic switch are two different things.<br> </p></div>i understand that...i wasn't aware of what the faulty item was, and what it interacts with, hence my word of warning.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p>I did notice a little bit of water on one of them but thats probably normal since its hot air coming out of the exhaust and its cold outside.<br> </p></div>Um, no. But depends where. Water at the furnace is not good $ign.<br><br>Where exactly was the water?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/953970" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=953970');">fast4ward</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p>Got a email back from York asking for some info about the company and furnace, hopefully they can help us out.<br><br>only issue now is that the furnace has been working ok the past day or 2 now that the temps are rising again.<br><br> </p></div>is the air intake and exhaust piping to code, did the installers hack, compromise or take short cuts ? If you have some freeze up issues leading to blockage it's worth questioning.<br> </p></div>They look correct to me, I dont notice anything jumping out that could be wrong. Unless the angle is wrong or something?<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : in the case of a professional install, by a licensed gas fitter, from a reputable business, the installed would be insured should his negligence cause an issue...in that example, the homeowner did it on the cheap, and lost everything (home and possessions) because of it...hindsight is always 20/20, i was just saying that some things just aren't worth saving a few bucks...in the case of the OP and your example, it sounds like it isn't something to worry about DIY.<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/657192" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=657192');">nitzguy</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1663827" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1663827');">Motofreak</a>:</said><p>I just replace them, because for less than $20 bucks a pop,  I just do it myself and make sure your pipes are clear and your install is correct.      <br> </p></div>i'm not familiar with the part you are replacing, but if it is anything that requires a gas fitter to do, and you are not a licensed gas fitter, you better pray to all that is holy you don't have a leak that causes your house to burn down (or blow up)...if the insurance company finds out about it, no money for you.<br> </p></div>I'm familiar with this switch.  But to the OP I would check to make sure that all of your vents are properly clear, both intake and exhaust...because back in the day when things were vented up the chimney with low and med efficency furnances, we never ran into this problem because nothing was blocked.<br><br>The valve is designed as a safety device...if it can't read the pressure, don't start because you'll seep carbon monoxide into the house and well, we all know how that goes.<br><br>With hi-effiency now everything is vented down and out the side so that it doesn't look as ugly....with all the snow perhaps that vent is now clogged or doesn't have enough ability to get airflow around it...<br><br>So, I'd check it...for mine it was all covered under warranty when they did it on my propane furnace, its literally a $2 valve that hooks on the outside and its got 1 hose in and 1 hose out to measure the pressure so no need for a gas fitter, but I let them come out and do it because hey its under warranty so let them do the heavy lifting...<br><br>Also a <5 year warranty on a furnace? Bad idea IMO....my junky little no name propane furnace has a 5 year warranty on it even...<br> </p></div>I actually checked my vents today and they are all clear and seem to be good. I did notice a little bit of water on one of them but thats probably normal since its hot air coming out of the exhaust and its cold outside.<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1663827" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1663827');">Motofreak</a>:</said><p>I have the same York POS furnace,  This is known issue, I have been replacing the pressure switch yearly, always in the fall before the frost hits.  There is a big thread about these junk pressure switches failing on a DIY HVAC forum, Google will find it, if not I'll look it up for you.  <br><br>I just replace them, because for less than $20 bucks a pop,  I just do it myself and make sure your pipes are clear and your install is correct.      <br> </p></div>I have thought of that also, does not seem hard to install. However im going to wait and see what York has to say about this maybe they will step up and do something unlike the company that installed it.<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fast4ward posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1388405" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1388405');">elwoodblues</a>:</said><p>If you're not familiar with the part, why would you comment that he might need a gas fitter.<br> </p></div>because lots of people "DIY" things they shouldn't...an acquaintance of someone i work with installed their own gas heater in their garage as he wanted a warm garage to work in...about a month later, the whole garage and house burnt down...after an inspection, it was due to faulty installation of the gas heater and the insurance company refused coverage...they lost everything, and the house was only about 1 year old...the only thing they had left to their name was a $300k mortgage and no home to show for it.<br> </p></div>ya know thats sad , but considering the OP topic here, same thing may have happened to your friend with a " professional install" because many of these so called trades aren't necessarily up to speed when it comes to professionalism .   Here is my story i had a fan relay go bad on my furnace. it was intermittent and would not always de energize to low speed after the limit cooled down. a light tap would cause the contacts to release. so i ordered an identical new old stock part off ebay and it was plug and play, 5 wires on spade terminals. cost me all of 20 bucks vs several hundred if I called some repair guy to diagnose then overcharge for the component. I'm confident to use what ever skills to save a buck as long as its to code. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1388405" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1388405');">elwoodblues</a>:</said><p>If you're not familiar with the part, why would you comment that he might need a gas fitter.<br> </p></div>because lots of people "DIY" things they shouldn't...an acquaintance of someone i work with installed their own gas heater in their garage as he wanted a warm garage to work in...about a month later, the whole garage and house burnt down...after an inspection, it was due to faulty installation of the gas heater and the insurance company refused coverage...they lost everything, and the house was only about 1 year old...the only thing they had left to their name was a $300k mortgage and no home to show for it.<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fast4ward posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p>Got a email back from York asking for some info about the company and furnace, hopefully they can help us out.<br><br>only issue now is that the furnace has been working ok the past day or 2 now that the temps are rising again.<br><br> </p></div>is the air intake and exhaust piping to code, did the installers hack, compromise or take short cuts ? If you have some freeze up issues leading to blockage it's worth questioning.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[elwoodblues posted : If you're not familiar with the part, why would you comment that he might need a gas fitter.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[nitzguy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/589128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=589128');">dirtyjeffer</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1663827" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1663827');">Motofreak</a>:</said><p>I just replace them, because for less than $20 bucks a pop,  I just do it myself and make sure your pipes are clear and your install is correct.      <br> </p></div>i'm not familiar with the part you are replacing, but if it is anything that requires a gas fitter to do, and you are not a licensed gas fitter, you better pray to all that is holy you don't have a leak that causes your house to burn down (or blow up)...if the insurance company finds out about it, no money for you.<br> </p></div>I'm familiar with this switch.  But to the OP I would check to make sure that all of your vents are properly clear, both intake and exhaust...because back in the day when things were vented up the chimney with low and med efficency furnances, we never ran into this problem because nothing was blocked.<br><br>The valve is designed as a safety device...if it can't read the pressure, don't start because you'll seep carbon monoxide into the house and well, we all know how that goes.<br><br>With hi-effiency now everything is vented down and out the side so that it doesn't look as ugly....with all the snow perhaps that vent is now clogged or doesn't have enough ability to get airflow around it...<br><br>So, I'd check it...for mine it was all covered under warranty when they did it on my propane furnace, its literally a $2 valve that hooks on the outside and its got 1 hose in and 1 hose out to measure the pressure so no need for a gas fitter, but I let them come out and do it because hey its under warranty so let them do the heavy lifting...<br><br>Also a <5 year warranty on a furnace? Bad idea IMO....my junky little no name propane furnace has a 5 year warranty on it even...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1663827" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1663827');">Motofreak</a>:</said><p>I just replace them, because for less than $20 bucks a pop,  I just do it myself and make sure your pipes are clear and your install is correct.      <br> </p></div>i'm not familiar with the part you are replacing, but if it is anything that requires a gas fitter to do, and you are not a licensed gas fitter, you better pray to all that is holy you don't have a leak that causes your house to burn down (or blow up)...if the insurance company finds out about it, no money for you.<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Motofreak posted : I have the same York POS furnace,  This is known issue, I have been replacing the pressure switch yearly, always in the fall before the frost hits.  There is a big thread about these junk pressure switches failing on a DIY HVAC forum, Google will find it, if not I'll look it up for you.  <br><br>I just replace them, because for less than $20 bucks a pop,  I just do it myself and make sure your pipes are clear and your install is correct.      ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : Got a email back from York asking for some info about the company and furnace, hopefully they can help us out.<br><br>only issue now is that the furnace has been working ok the past day or 2 now that the temps are rising again.<br><br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MaynardKrebs posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1659027" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1659027');">CanadianRip</a>:</said><p>Check all your dampers, and filter make sure there's no obstructions in your duct work.   <br><br> </p></div>Maybe he should get one of those companies that call offering to "clean his ducks" to come in.  :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[CanadianRip posted : This may sound silly, but that pressure switch is protection to make sure the blower doesn't burn itself out.<br><br>Check all your dampers, and filter make sure there's no obstructions in your duct work.   Many people like to seal off basement vents, and  with enough obstruction in the duct-work your unit may be detecting a low pressure situation.<br><br>Could be something as simple as that.   Good luck either way.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1652067" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1652067');">MaynardKrebs</a>:</said><p>If you want to get nasty about it, report an unsafe installation to TSSA with the installer & company name.<br><br>You can also write York and tell them that you are going to write CSA telling them about an unsafe product.<br><br>Then see what happens.<br> </p></div>interesting I'll keep that in mind.<br><br>Thanks<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dirtyjeffer posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1652067" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1652067');">MaynardKrebs</a>:</said><p>If you want to get nasty about it, report an unsafe installation to TSSA with the installer & company name.<br><br>You can also write York and tell them that you are going to write CSA telling them about an unsafe product.<br><br>Then see what happens.<br> </p></div>not a bad idea at all...while most things likely won't garner much attention, a home, with natural gas, and a potentially faulty furnace is little more than a fixed bomb...not that it is likely that would happen, but just the mention of faulty furnace and natural gas is certain to get a raised eyebrow.<br><br>at the very least, perhaps York will work with you...i have a York furnace too...i also have a buddy who does the maintenance for me (every 2 years)...i had something fail on it a couple of years ago (i think it was the exhaust blower fan or something like that)...the part was under warranty, but i had to pay for the labour (i think it was about $100).<br><small>--<br>People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.<br><br>- George Orwell</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MaynardKrebs posted : If you want to get nasty about it, report an unsafe installation to TSSA with the installer & company name.<br><br>You can also write York and tell them that you are going to write CSA telling them about an unsafe product.<br><br>Then see what happens.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1143582" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1143582');">Thane_Bitter</a>:</said><p>Did they ever try replacing the control board (the brains, or there lack of, for the furnace)?<br> </p></div>Nope they never tried or suggested the motherboard.<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Seems to me you have a 10-year warranty on parts.<br><br>From their site:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.york.com/residential/why-buy-york/warranties.aspx" >www.york.com/residential/why-buy&middot;&middot;&middot;ies.aspx</A><br><i>All Air Handlers Warranties:<br>    10-year parts<br>All York&reg; products come with a written limited warranty on parts. This warranty states that a replacement part will be furnished for any part of the product that fails in normal use and service during the applicable warranty period specified in accordance with the warranty's terms. Your authorized York&reg; Dealer can review with you the warranty periods for the products you select.</i><br><br>In addition to this, you have a failure rate that exceeds normal use and normal wear. Thus they should be covering labour, or someone should be generating a refund cheque for you.<br><br>Your new furnace certainly isn't giving you peace of mind, eh? Say it just like that to York when you call them. Don't be shy to escalate this up the chain.<br><br>Also, as seen at the bottom of the webpage, their site is geared for all North America (references Quebec). Guess Canada just has "approved dealers" and nothing more?<br><br>They should be sending someone out for you as a quality call or on warranty for no charge to fix what your paid professional could not.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/702949" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=702949');">bryanviper</a>:</said><p>Yes I may have to call York since I have not gotten an email reply from them yet (only been 2 buisness days) I dont think they have a Canadian location as I cant find any Canadian contact info on their website.<br><br>Thanks<br> </p></div>Yeah do call. Call them tomorrow even.<br><br>I would say it like it is. If ever you leave for a week for a winter vacation (and if ever you did since you bought this thing) you could come home to a very big disaster of burst pies and tens of thousands in damage. And really, that is what would happen. All because of a professional always replacing the same apparent defective part.<br><br>Time for them to address the issue.<br><br>Any blow-off and you will seriously have to consider small claims. Hate to say it.<br><br>But yeah, post in that other forum as well. People there could tell you the failure components with that code and if it could be something else. At least this will arm you for your call to them.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : Yes I may have to call York since I have not gotten an email reply from them yet (only been 2 buisness days) I dont think they have a Canadian location as I cant find any Canadian contact info on their website.<br><br>Thanks<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1143582" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1143582');">Thane_Bitter</a>:</said><p>And if you cycle power to the furnace it begins to work again magically?<br> <br>EDIT - opps ment to say mine also gets tempermental at times and fails to work, power cycling helps 99.99% of the time.<br> </p></div>Correct if I flip the cut off switch for the furnace then back on it will start to work again... for how long depends. 2 nights ago I think it died on us 2 or 3 times in the middle of the night for example. <br><br>its a very weird annoying problem.<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : The replacement parts themselves for a furnace (when replaced) come with their own standard 1 year warranty normally. So regardless of the maintenance and regardless of the entire warranty issue, the part should be covered at now cost. Labour on the other hand...<br><br>Seems to me you may want to contact whatever consumer union works in Ontario and see what they have to say about it. I mean since this is showing a lemon history for this particular component for whatever reason, you may want to head over to small claims since the furnace professional you bought it from blew you off. And I think I would want to do this within the 2 month time frame of your furnace's general warranty.<br><br>Big ticket items like this normally come with their own consumer clauses (depending on prov), similar to "Gone's" Whirlpool washer incident.<br><br>How many times will you replace this thing? Every year?<br><br>Also, you may want to discuss this issue with a different professional, see what he says, and try to work under warranty or use this to go against the other professional.<br><br>Also, I would call York themselves. If these are York parts failing time after time, it should be free.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I don't usually recommend the extended warranty on anything but on a furnace I always recommend both the extended warranty and the service contract.<br><br>We had a problem ten years ago when a newly installed furnace would die in the middle of winter three years in a row.<br><br>Finally in the third year they seemed to finally kick the bugs out and fix it for good, but even so, I STRONGLY advise paying the extra $20 per month for an ongoing service contract.  It will save you a fortune in the long run.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1143582" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1143582');">Thane_Bitter</a>:</said><p>How do you know its the pressure switch, are you going by the diagnostic code from the system board LED?<br> </p></div>Yes that is correct I am going by the Diagnostic code,<br>- Limit Switch open<br>which is the same code from the last 3 times also same symptoms.<br><br>Thanks<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Thane_Bitter posted : How do you know its the pressure switch, are you going by the diagnostic code from the system board LED?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:19:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1802566" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1802566');">WhaleOilBee</a>:</said><p>I had a similar problem if you're talking about the switch that detects if pumping air through the combustion chamber results in negative pressure.  There is an intake and exhaust pipe leading outside.  After two visits from Enbridge that didn't solve the problem, I discovered that on the intake pipe frost had built up to the point that it couldn't inhale.  The exhaust pipe created a plume of steam on very cold days and the intake pipe sucked it in.  There is a plastic rodent screen on the intake; the frost built up on that.  Removing the screen cured the problem. So far no mice have made a home in my furnace.<br><br>Don't know if this is your issue, but might be worth a look.<br> </p></div>Interesting, I had read something online about the same pipe going outside and being blocked, next time i'll have to go have a look to see if there is frost built up or something similar.<br><br>Thanks<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:10:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[WhaleOilBee posted : I had a similar problem if you're talking about the switch that detects if pumping air through the combustion chamber results in negative pressure.  There is an intake and exhaust pipe leading outside.  After two visits from Enbridge that didn't solve the problem, I discovered that on the intake pipe frost had built up to the point that it couldn't inhale.  The exhaust pipe created a plume of steam on very cold days and the intake pipe sucked it in.  There is a plastic rodent screen on the intake; the frost built up on that.  Removing the screen cured the problem. So far no mice have made a home in my furnace.<br><br>Don't know if this is your issue, but might be worth a look.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:08:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bryanviper posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1390483" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1390483');">Juggernaut</a>:</said><p>This may be answered better in &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/homerepair">Home Improvement</A><br><br>Lot's of great people there!  :)<br> </p></div>haha possibly, but also looking for Canadian input also as to what can be done :)<br><small>--<br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:05:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Juggernaut posted : This may be answered better in &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/homerepair">Home Improvement</A><br><br>Lot's of great people there!  :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:04:08 EDT</pubDate>
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