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Re: Once again; laws created by those who don't understand.

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 19:32:17 EDT

MaynardKrebs posted :

Actually that would be hard with a laptop, Because they do not know who owns the hardware if you bought at say a Best Buy.

That's what *mandatory* registration is for.

Re: Once again; laws created by those who don't understand.

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:55:20 EDT

Kearnstd posted : Actually that would be hard with a laptop, Because they do not know who owns the hardware if you bought at say a Best Buy.
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Re: Once again; laws created by those who don't understand.

Sat, 26 Jan 2013 01:50:09 EDT

Selenia posted :

said by adampsyreal:

*Why is it legal for cell phone companies to make my phone run slower with apps that cannot be removed without unlocking?
=They way I see it; phone companies owe us $ for lost time that we could have been using to make money -had we not been spending time out of our lives waiting for crap to run on our phones.

What's next? -no laptop bloatware removal?

Unlocking =! rooting. It is still legal to root. You just can't unlock the baseband firmware to take it to another carrier without your current carrier's permission :(
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Re: Once again; laws created by those who don't understand.

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:57:24 EDT

skeechan posted : Oh no, they understand completely. They read all those extra zeros on those campaign contributions and understood what was expected of them clear as crystal.

Re: Once again; laws created by those who don't understand.

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:57:04 EDT

MaynardKrebs posted :

said by adampsyreal:

What's next? -no laptop bloatware removal?

In a word, yes.
Especially if the Supreme Court upholds Wiley v. Kirtsaeng (see post above in this thread)

Here's another view of this case
»www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/1···-sale-2/

"The government’s position was, and still is that the U.S. Copyright Act’s first-sale doctrine does not apply to goods produced and copyrighted overseas and imported to the United States — period. Costco had told the Supreme Court that the decision effectively urges U.S.-based manufacturers to flee the United States (.pdf) to acquire complete control over distribution of their goods in the American market, arguments now being made in the latest case."

Now take, for example, a hypothetical HP-branded laptop made in China or Taiwan, filled with bloatware, whose copyright is 'owned' by a non-US company - perhaps a HP foreign 'partner' or perhaps even HP's own Irish (not picking on the Irish) subsidiary. You decide to remove the bloatware and HP has an 'alarm' system which phones home and tells HP that you've removed something that provides HP with additional revenue (ie. selling your page views or whatever to a 3rd party). HP sues you for lost revenue and damages - or more likely just sends you an extortionate "copyright troll" letter offering to 'settle' out-of-court for $10,000.

Once again; laws created by those who don't understand.

Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:48:33 EDT

adampsyreal posted : *Why is it legal for cell phone companies to make my phone run slower with apps that cannot be removed without unlocking?
=They way I see it; phone companies owe us $ for lost time that we could have been using to make money -had we not been spending time out of our lives waiting for crap to run on our phones.

What's next? -no laptop bloatware removal?
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