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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Tempe, AZ
reply to VegasMan

Re: [motherboard] system will not boot anymore

Pestered a bud to get eVGA's phone support. Talked to a tech named Jeff there. He asked me what the last thing I did regarding to the system was... which I recall would be taking it apart to clear out the dust inside and putting it back together (forgot to mention adding another case fan to the radiator for a push+pull to cool the CPU).

With that, he'd asked me to look for the BIOS chip, which on this board is kind of in its own socket, and to kinda press it down/back in. After that, was just switch the CMOS jumper to RESET and I was able to get 'er turned back on. Reapplied the appropriate settings again, and I'm back up and running.
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VegasMan
Are We There Yet?
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join:2002-11-17
Schaumburg, IL

Still has a socketed CMOS? OK
Glad you got it up and running.
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
Premium
join:2001-10-03
Tempe, AZ

What, boards today don't have socketed BIOS chips anymore?

That's kinda dumb.
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Because, f*ck Sony



koitsu
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
kudos:23

said by C0deZer0:

What, boards today don't have socketed BIOS chips anymore?

Many desktop boards don't. Some desktop boards (Gigabyte for example) have "dual BIOSes" (non-socketable), so that if one fails you can switch to the other manually (or automatically, I forget how that works). Server-class boards tend to have socketed PLCC BIOSes.

But for sake of point: when was the last time you actually had a total BIOS failure? I know when I did (my first and only) -- it was in 2006, when I was upgrading the BIOS on one of my yet-to-be-deployed Supermicro servers when the city lost power for a few seconds. I had to order a replacement BIOS chip (saved 4-5 days on shipping time) from badflash.com or some such place. And yeah, I have UPSes, but normally I don't hook up yet-to-be-deployed systems to them.

It doesn't sound like you actually pulled/reinserted the BIOS at all, although it's possible the BIOS was slightly ajar and some some thick dust or metal shaving during your cleaning got wedged between the pin and the socket. For those curious, the BIOS on the eVGA 680i SLI is PLCC and at the bottom of this picture. Quite a big socket compared to what my board has (M_BIOS and B_BIOS at bottom). Probably the same size (capacity) too, just that flash chips are now smaller than before (no not the same kind used in SSDs :P).
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Making life hard for others since 1977.
I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer.


Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
kudos:1

said by koitsu:

said by C0deZer0:

What, boards today don't have socketed BIOS chips anymore?

Many desktop boards don't. Some desktop boards (Gigabyte for example) have "dual BIOSes" (non-socketable), so that if one fails you can switch to the other manually (or automatically, I forget how that works). Server-class boards tend to have socketed PLCC BIOSes.

But for sake of point: when was the last time you actually had a total BIOS failure? I know when I did (my first and only) -- it was in 2006, when I was upgrading the BIOS on one of my yet-to-be-deployed Supermicro servers when the city lost power for a few seconds. I had to order a replacement BIOS chip (saved 4-5 days on shipping time) from badflash.com or some such place. And yeah, I have UPSes, but normally I don't hook up yet-to-be-deployed systems to them.

It doesn't sound like you actually pulled/reinserted the BIOS at all, although it's possible the BIOS was slightly ajar and some some thick dust or metal shaving during your cleaning got wedged between the pin and the socket. For those curious, the BIOS on the eVGA 680i SLI is PLCC and at the bottom of this picture. Quite a big socket compared to what my board has (M_BIOS and B_BIOS at bottom). Probably the same size (capacity) too, just that flash chips are now smaller than before (no not the same kind used in SSDs :P).

I wish I could get my gigabyte board to work again

One day it just went out (took a hdd with it) and it does nothing but makes this non slandered beep.. Well it's not really a beep but a long tone.

I took everything out and the board out of the case and it still did it.. so it's in the closet.. it's seems like now a days you have to keep extra boards on hand..
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koitsu
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-16
Mountain View, CA
kudos:23

said by Subaru:

it's seems like now a days you have to keep extra boards on hand..


OT, but:

I realise it's not very economical for a lot of people (especially in this economy -- and believe me, I understand, I've been unemployed since May 2012), but keeping spare hardware on hand is usually a wise choice.

When I upgrade a system, assuming the old board uses the same CPU socket type as my new/upgraded board, I keep the old board in its box in case something goes awry. If after 1-2 years I'm still good, I end up sending the hardware off to my friends in Sweden (where everything tech has almost a 100% mark-up on it for no justified reason), or try to donate stuff here to folks who need it. Else I sell it on eBay.

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Making life hard for others since 1977.
I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer.


Subaru
1-3-2-4
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Greenwich, CT
kudos:1

said by koitsu:

said by Subaru:

it's seems like now a days you have to keep extra boards on hand..


OT, but:

I realise it's not very economical for a lot of people (especially in this economy -- and believe me, I understand, I've been unemployed since May 2012), but keeping spare hardware on hand is usually a wise choice.

When I upgrade a system, assuming the old board uses the same CPU socket type as my new/upgraded board, I keep the old board in its box in case something goes awry. If after 1-2 years I'm still good, I end up sending the hardware off to my friends in Sweden (where everything tech has almost a 100% mark-up on it for no justified reason), or try to donate stuff here to folks who need it. Else I sell it on eBay.

I thought I was the only one that did this.. lucky for me I kept a intel ITX board and it used the same socket so I was good, sucks about the board I loss.. No big deal on the drive since it's 80GB.
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It's NOT Ni-kon It's NE-KON!




LG is NOT Lifes Good It's Lucky Goldstar!