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Re: CNOC speed matching decision due next week said by funny:and show that the market is not working right as people are looking to pay less and can't....
The market works or doesn't work based on what people are willing to pay, not what they want to pay. |
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Hey Marc.... no pressure or anything...  ... but what does mean for higher speeds in the Montreal area....???? |
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said by MaynardKrebs:said by mikee:Alright well i'm just going to assume I'm in a population dense area. I live a 3 minute walk from CSIS,
Yep, they're pretty dense. Coffee everywhere. Damn you.
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So did i miss the announcement and it was unfavorable? or will take 1 year plus to attain? |
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| said by bdoyledimou:So did i miss the announcement and it was unfavorable? or will take 1 year plus to attain?
Marc's post-decision post: »Re: CNOC speed matching decision due next week |
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To sumarize:
The Decision here: CRTC: Telecom Decision CRTC 2013-36
Key posts to read by TSI Marc We will go from having 100+ links to 10-15 (10gig) links...
And so far it all looks good for us.
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said by Rickkins:Hey Marc.... no pressure or anything... ... but what does mean for higher speeds in the Montreal area....????
This affects Rogers cable on non-aggregated. Not Videotron.
Going by the little smiles here and there in another topic about videotron, it seems something is in the works and might be worth waiting for. Give it a month (+/-) |
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So down from 100 points of failure to 15.
Next upgrade will be down to a single point of failure.  |
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said by Rickkins:Hey Marc.... no pressure or anything... ... but what does mean for higher speeds in the Montreal area....????
It does not change anything for Videotron since Videotron's TPIA has always been at least regionally aggregated... one POI in Montreal to access ~3M subscribers in that area, same goes for Quebec City, so two POIs to access ~85% of Videotron's footprint rather than Rogers' ~40.
So even before aggregated tariffs, Videotron was pretty much already aggregated anyhow... and before Bell's throttling, UBB, etc., the Videotron-TPIA tariffs were so bad, there was almost no advantage in going with a TPIA rather than Videotron itself, so almost no ISP bothered with it until Bell broke the camel's back. |
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said by MaynardKrebs:So down from 100 points of failure to 15.
Next upgrade will be down to a single point of failure. Too bad there most likely isn't any load-sharing/balancing in there. If there was, losing 1/15th of available capacity should have almost no impact on service.
With the much more efficient "packing" by aggregating everything on 10G links instead of individual 1Gbps virtual circuits, TSI would likely be able to get away with somewhat fewer 10G links than what their projected total of 1G links would dictate. They only need to aim for equal or more if most of their 1G links happen to frequently hit their peaks at the same time, which should be very uncommon. |
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Videotron already offers 10 gig ports (getting them to offer it took ages, but they ended up doing it long before Bell), they're basically aggregated already (they interconnect with TSI in Toronto... The only thing standing in the way now is the CBB rates.
Videotron already had one of if not the lowest CBB rates after MTS, but they should still go down substantially with the CBB R&V (or so we hope).
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| said by Guspaz:Videotron already had one of if not the lowest CBB rates after MTS, but they should still go down substantially with the CBB R&V (or so we hope).
If the "we hope" decision doesn't materialize then the next stop ought to be the Competition Bureau. |
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said by Guspaz:Videotron already had one of if not the lowest CBB rates after MTS, but they should still go down substantially with the CBB R&V Videotron is actually the third most expensive. IIRC, Rogers gets first place at 26k$/Gbps, Bell was second at 22k$/Gbps, Videotron comes in third at 19k$/Gbps and I think Cogeco was fourth at 16k$/Gbps.
As for the CBB R&V, I would not expect rates to go lower than 8k$/Gbps... at least not without some of the costs getting shuffled back into the per-sub access fees. |
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kudos:20 | Well, cutting costs by almost two thirds (in the case of Bell) on the indy ISP's biggest line item would definitely have a pretty positive effect, even if it's still vastly overinflated.
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| said by NBomb:When's the CBB decision due, anyway?
There is no due date or anything..
But a bunch of us have been hearing rumors that it'll be out by end of Feb.
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| said by resa1983:said by NBomb:When's the CBB decision due, anyway?
There is no due date or anything.. But a bunch of us have been hearing rumors that it'll be out by end of Feb. 2013?
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brad
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said by InvalidError:As for the CBB R&V, I would not expect rates to go lower than 8k$/Gbps... at least not without some of the costs getting shuffled back into the per-sub access fees.
Last time I checked $8k/Gbps is much cheaper than $26k/$22k/Gbps... |
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brad
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said by InvalidError:With the much more efficient "packing" by aggregating everything on 10G links instead of individual 1Gbps virtual circuits, TSI would likely be able to get away with somewhat fewer 10G links than what their projected total of 1G links would dictate. They only need to aim for equal or more if most of their 1G links happen to frequently hit their peaks at the same time, which should be very uncommon.
There is no point in reducing the amount of capacity between TSI and Rogers when they'll end up just going up to that level of required capacity very quickly anyway, especially with the increased coverage and the new speed tiers. |
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hm
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said by resa1983:said by NBomb:When's the CBB decision due, anyway?
There is no due date or anything.. But a bunch of us have been hearing rumors that it'll be out by end of Feb. Supposed to be in 2012-2013 for what appears to be the 703 file
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/backgrnd/plan2012.htm
And a review of costing for wholesale in 2013-2014 (file #??).
Ref:
» Re: The end of ####?
So I think the best we came up with, with those in the "know" and what we regular pee-ons know, was 703 being looked at in Nov-Dec-Jan with some sort of ruling coming out in Jan-Feb.
With Bell giving unlimited all of a sudden after calling their customers thieves (more or less), seems to me they may have advanced knowledge that this is completed, the decision rendered, and now just waiting for it to be released.
Best guess. |
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